(January 2, 2013 at 7:50 pm)Ryft Wrote: So you assert; but that is compelling only to the already convinced.
Or to anyone who has knowledge of how reality works.
(January 2, 2013 at 7:50 pm)Ryft Wrote: That follows only on a correspondence theory of truth, which I do not hold—and the statement was mine. If the statement was yours, then it could be said that "true" was one of the criteria. Please attempt to remove your metaphysical blinders every now and then.
Nope. Read again. The statement covers both correspondence and coherence theories of truth.
So, what theory of truth do you subscribe to and how does it make that statement not equivalent to truth?
(January 2, 2013 at 7:50 pm)Ryft Wrote: I do not presuppose the truth of my worldview when evaluating another; that is question-begging foolishness, a fact which escapes the notice of far too many here.
Including you, it seems - given on your insistence on Christianity being "true necessarily".
(January 2, 2013 at 7:50 pm)Ryft Wrote: But obviously I presuppose the truth of my worldview when expressing and defending it. Not to put too fine a point on it but, "Duh." And this worldview holds itself as not only true but necessarily true.
Saying it is so doesn't make it so. Christianity might hold itself as "necessarily true", but without presupposing its truth how exactly did you judge that to be true?
(January 2, 2013 at 7:50 pm)Ryft Wrote: That is why the "existence of a single non-Christian worldview that is self-attesting, logically coherent, and consistent both with itself and the world in which we live" would disprove Christianity entirely for me, for such a thing should be impossible.
Given the existence of so many of them - from naturalism onwards - you should no longer be a Christian.
(January 2, 2013 at 7:50 pm)Ryft Wrote: Ipse dixit ... [yawn]
Your fellow atheists who already agree with this are of course nodding in agreement. But just how satisfying can an echo chamber really be for you?
Maybe that's all you need: to be convincing for the already convinced. Whatever floats your boat, I guess.
Yes, my voice does seem to echo in your head - why might that be?
The fact that you consistently refuse to acknowledge known errors of your worldview proves your presupposition of it.
(January 2, 2013 at 7:50 pm)Ryft Wrote: Wrong. I reject it because it is self-defeating (i.e., quite apart from my own worldview).
Really? Prove it.