Our server costs ~$56 per month to run. Please consider donating or becoming a Patron to help keep the site running. Help us gain new members by following us on Twitter and liking our page on Facebook!
Current time: September 2, 2026, 1:32 am

Thread Rating:
  • 3 Vote(s) - 3.67 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
What one thing would disprove Christianity to you?
RE: What one thing would disprove Christianity to you?
(January 7, 2013 at 6:40 pm)fr0d0 Wrote:
(January 6, 2013 at 11:29 am)teaearlgreyhot Wrote: I need specifics.

No, you do not. You need to understand the basic concept first. If you can't grasp the basic concept, breath is wasted on detail.

Ryft has laid out the basics for you. Address the problem. If, at step one, you object. There you must stay.

The "problem" from what I can tell is irrelevant to this discussion.

I'm basically asking Ryft why he thinks angels etc exist. I've heard nothing from him unless one thinks a simple one word sentence "Scripture" constitutes a meaningful answer. Saying "Scripture" is an appeal to authority fallacy no different than saying evolution is true because Dawkins says so.

He claimed the Bible, a book that makes extraordinary claims, is consistent with reality. I would like to know why he believes the Bible's extraordinary claims are true so he can confidently claim the Bible is consistent with reality. He thinks heaven and hell, and angels, etc, are part of reality, so I'm wanting to know why he thinks those things are part of reality. I'm pretty sure he has an answer but he hasn't given one apart from an appeal to authority fallacy (see previous paragraph).

It's hypocritical for one to be skeptical about hidden spaceships, mind readers, prophecy, ghosts, etc., and then turn around and believe in heaven and hell, angels, demons, etc., because "the bible says so." This is what I suspect Ryft is guilty of. His classification of all the Bible's extraordinary claims into this "non-empirical" category seems arbitrary and sounds like an appeal to definition fallacy.
My ignore list




"The lord doesn't work in mysterious ways, but in ways that are indistinguishable from his nonexistence."
-- George Yorgo Veenhuyzen quoted by John W. Loftus in The End of Christianity (p. 103).
Reply



Messages In This Thread
RE: What one thing would disprove Christianity to you? - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - January 7, 2013 at 7:31 pm

Possibly Related Threads...
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  What value do you see in studying theology in concerns to Christianity? EgoDeath 40 11387 September 8, 2019 at 4:32 pm
Last Post: EgoDeath
  [Serious] What would you want in a church tackattack 44 11220 March 11, 2019 at 10:10 am
Last Post: chimp3
  So, are the Boils of Egypt still a 'thing' ?? vorlon13 26 10098 May 8, 2018 at 1:29 am
Last Post: Minimalist
  Jesus Would Be Proud of You, Douchebag Minimalist 37 16559 August 21, 2017 at 2:03 pm
Last Post: downbeatplumb
  Hi, I would like to tell you about Jesus Christ, the only way to God JacquelineDeane55 78 34927 June 10, 2017 at 9:46 am
Last Post: Fireball
  Hello Atheists, Agnostic here, and I would love to ask you a question about NDEs Vaino-Eesti 33 10901 April 8, 2017 at 12:28 am
Last Post: Tokikot
  Catholicism would actually be the most likely controlled Christianity Rolandson 10 3938 January 1, 2017 at 11:44 am
Last Post: Redoubtable
  Atheists, how would you explain these Christian testimonies? miguel54 44 16694 August 28, 2016 at 7:46 pm
Last Post: Crossless2.0
  Christians, would you have saved Jesus, if you had he chance? Simon Moon 294 90679 July 2, 2016 at 11:23 am
Last Post: vorlon13
  You Can't Disprove a Miracle Rhondazvous 155 38780 March 18, 2016 at 11:05 am
Last Post: Cyberman



Users browsing this thread: 2 Guest(s)