RE: What one thing would disprove Christianity to you?
January 7, 2013 at 7:31 pm
(This post was last modified: January 7, 2013 at 7:33 pm by Tea Earl Grey Hot.)
(January 7, 2013 at 6:40 pm)fr0d0 Wrote:(January 6, 2013 at 11:29 am)teaearlgreyhot Wrote: I need specifics.
No, you do not. You need to understand the basic concept first. If you can't grasp the basic concept, breath is wasted on detail.
Ryft has laid out the basics for you. Address the problem. If, at step one, you object. There you must stay.
The "problem" from what I can tell is irrelevant to this discussion.
I'm basically asking Ryft why he thinks angels etc exist. I've heard nothing from him unless one thinks a simple one word sentence "Scripture" constitutes a meaningful answer. Saying "Scripture" is an appeal to authority fallacy no different than saying evolution is true because Dawkins says so.
He claimed the Bible, a book that makes extraordinary claims, is consistent with reality. I would like to know why he believes the Bible's extraordinary claims are true so he can confidently claim the Bible is consistent with reality. He thinks heaven and hell, and angels, etc, are part of reality, so I'm wanting to know why he thinks those things are part of reality. I'm pretty sure he has an answer but he hasn't given one apart from an appeal to authority fallacy (see previous paragraph).
It's hypocritical for one to be skeptical about hidden spaceships, mind readers, prophecy, ghosts, etc., and then turn around and believe in heaven and hell, angels, demons, etc., because "the bible says so." This is what I suspect Ryft is guilty of. His classification of all the Bible's extraordinary claims into this "non-empirical" category seems arbitrary and sounds like an appeal to definition fallacy.
My ignore list
"The lord doesn't work in mysterious ways, but in ways that are indistinguishable from his nonexistence."
-- George Yorgo Veenhuyzen quoted by John W. Loftus in The End of Christianity (p. 103).
"The lord doesn't work in mysterious ways, but in ways that are indistinguishable from his nonexistence."
-- George Yorgo Veenhuyzen quoted by John W. Loftus in The End of Christianity (p. 103).