RE: Burden of Proof
January 7, 2013 at 8:32 pm
(This post was last modified: January 7, 2013 at 8:37 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
I assure you that I can't find such a person, I wouldn't even know what to look for. I'm certainly no such person myself. "Robotic intelligence" may be behind ours, sure, especially if we're the ones setting the criteria, but that doesn't mean that they aren't more capable at logic than ourselves. Play a little minecraft with me, I'll show you machine logic that cannot make a mistake - I'm the only one (between the machine and I) that can insert error into the system...lol.
Logic cannot prove logic? You know, I get the impression that you regard logic as some alien or manufactured thing, which in a sense is true. We did manufacture the terms, the system. But it is a descriptive system (remeber our discussion about the number 2 in a different thread?)- it conforms to how our universe seems to behave. So if you were so inclined, you could actually observe the "laws" of logic at work in the physical world. It didn't come to us in a flash either, we gradually discovered it (making mistakes along the way - most of them what we now call fallacies). You don't have to put all of your trust into logic, true, but what compelled you to use the word "reason" while arguing against trusting logic? Don't get me wrong, in a way you and I could find common ground here, there may be some part of our system that we have ass backwards (it's happened before..fallacies, remember)....but I still trust it - I wouldn't go so far as to put faith in it (but I have a habit of reserving faith...so...), but trust, sure.
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