jesus and muhammed real or not

[paulpablo]

If there were a first century rabbi who had followers, preached to the masses and was crucified by the Romans, do you call that person Jesus if he didn't perform all the miracles that are attributed to Jesus?

If his name was jesus or whatever the equivilent for that name was in the time and place jesus was supposed to have been, and he was the man which the myths are based on then yes

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Mohammed" supposedly a conqueror who would have been annoying the shit out of both the Byzantine and Parthian empires certainly should have been mentioned by them somewhere even as an annoyance. But they did not mention him.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medieval_Ch...n_Muhammad

This link actually mentiones Byzantine sources mentioning a deceptive prophet although they dont mention muhammed by name, and there seems to be other negative biographies of muhammed written by christians.

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"Even a fantastic rumor of a crucified criminal coming back to life would have been BIG FUCKING NEWS in the Roman empire. It would have been seen as a repudiation of the Romans by the gods. Yet we listen and hear only silence from the people alive at the time. They never heard of the fucker."

Maybe it was big news thats how the rumour esculated and christianity became the religion of rome via the emporer constantine.