Gun Control: Say What you Mean.

[Brian37]

Right, so because the minimum wage is so high, there's no profit to be made having a production job in a western country,

No, it is high because the cost of living index is going up. It actually should be higher than it is, especially in high cost places like urban areas.

The problem is pay gap. No other westernized country except India, has the gap we do. Your idea is a race to the bottom.

The problem isn't the minimum wage, the problem is greed. Inequity in a free market has to exist, but just like a fish tank, if you don't maintain a balance in temperature the fish die. Our pay gap will definitely give idiots like you what you want. 80 hours a week 16 hour days 6 days a week like Chinese sweat shops. Great for the business owners and CEOs and the communist party of China, but I am quite sure it sucks for the workers.

I don't want our middle class and working poor to end up in sweat shops like India and China. Competition does not have to be a race to the bottom just so the few can get rich.

That may be your idea of a free market, but it will never be mine.

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You want to live in a world where people don't steel your money? Ok, become a warlord in Somalia, they don't have to answer to anyone and they keep all their money.

Voting isn't steeling. I paid for two wars I didn't want to so shut the fuck up. It would only be steeling if you lose your right to vote. Taxes are a social contract that pay for things like SOCIAL SECURITY, and our military and our police. Now if you think GE and Exxon getting away with paying no taxes that I have to compensate for isn't steeling, you are out of your mind.

Where is your sympathy for the people screwed by big banks? Where is your sympathy for the tax payer having to bail out car companies? Where is your sympathy for people who paid their mortgages on time but are now living in houses that are worth far less than the loans they took? Poor people and the middle class didn't cause that crash, you're corporate buddies did.

I agree, there is theft going on, but it is being done by the top. Bullies can do anything when they write all the laws.

I don't discuss ethics/finances/economics with those that quote Barack Obama.

Well why are you even at this website then, because last time I checked your only option is to put me on ignore while here. But I'll post any response to your corporate crap all I want.

And maybe not all but I think it would be a safe bet that most here support Obama.

Now please tell me why you'd be so obtuse to not even listen to Warren Buffet, Nick Hanour and even Suzie Orman, they are not exactly poor.

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I'd like you to answer my question earlier. I want to understand you correctly. Is "socialism" anything short of Guilded Age capitalism?


Because they can be at cheaper rates than by not outsourcing.

Right, so because the minimum wage is so high, there's no profit to be made having a production job in a western country, it's better to do that business in China, India and the likes. This is what I mean when regulations & red tape always back fires.

A country that does not produce, and has a service based economy will eventually starve itself out until regulations are removed at once. It's inevitable.

And I bet, in 20 or 30 so years, when poor people start whining/starving/rioting, I will just say 'I tried to warn you'.

Right, warn us if we don't take it up the ass you'll blackmail us even more.