RE: What things are bad in Islam?
January 21, 2013 at 4:25 pm
(This post was last modified: January 21, 2013 at 4:33 pm by Confused Ape.)
(January 21, 2013 at 3:46 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: He would have made mention of morality if he had anything to do with deity. Are you saying he didn't know Allah's will on this subject?
I was looking at him as an historical figure and pointing out that he was a man who was a product of his place and time. I then said that he could have changed the custom but didn't because he obviously didn't think to do so. This has now led to atheists asking Muslims why God didn't tell him that having sex with 9 year old girls is bad from a medical point of view. After all, God is supposed to have created humans so you think he'd have told his prophet not to do it.
Quote:Also... the UK age of consent is 16. France is 15. Maybe you were thinking of that.
If you look through the entire list of age of consent in different countries you'll see that the lowest age is 13 in Spain. The highest is 18 in Turkey where the majority of the population is Muslim. I was just saying that there are better ways of pointing out bad things in Islam than trying to imply that every Muslim male in the world wants to have sex with 9 year old girls.
(January 21, 2013 at 3:46 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: The point still stands... There's a big difference between 9 and 14. The additional laws for the 14 year olds shows the societies discomfort with it.
Yes, there is a big difference but the fact is that morality is still defined by law and it varies even between Western countries. Spaniards obviously don't think there's anything wrong with the age of consent being 13. This was all part of pointing out that Muhammed didn't see anything wrong with what he did because he wasn't born and bred in 21st Century Turkey. We can now ask Muslims why God didn't tell him that the custom in his time and place was wrong.
(January 21, 2013 at 3:46 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: A supposed consort with perfect morality should never stay silent on such a questionable tradition.
That's something which Muslims have to address. I'm not a Muslim - I'm an atheist. I'm just one of those annoying people who likes to get a discussion point clearly defined so everyone knows what's being discussed.
@AtlasS
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Quote:But still, this is not mentioned in the quran (that aisha was 9). so simply, it cannot be trusted.
Where did people get the idea that Aisha was 9 from?
