RE: Britain leaving the EU
January 30, 2013 at 10:44 am
(This post was last modified: January 30, 2013 at 10:58 am by Ace Otana.)
Quote:I dont really understand what you mean with resources.Both. For example we've given around 70% of our fish market to the EU.
Do you mean natural, financial or other resources?
Quote:Poland is about to privatise massive new found gasfields in the west of it`s country whilest it`s low taxrates have created a boom in the opening of new buisnesses in the past 10-5 years, France has completly nationalised it`s energy sector since the 60s aswell as it is a known fact that 2 thirds of the french workforce work for the state and it has ignored every single suggestion by the economists and other nations to open that sector to the privat market, Germany has completly privatised it`s energy and financial sector and has partialy privatised it`s public transportation and healthcare sector, and Austria is about to nationalise it`s natural water supplies and make the access to clean drinking water a constitutional right.Sounds nice, however the reality of the situation is much different. Economic collapse is what's happening. Do I have to drag you through a few towns and cities to see it for yourself?
So from my obseration: the Eu does not have the capacities and instruments to get involved into a nations handling of it`s economical and natural resources.
Can you tell me the benefit of adding 29 million foreigners to a country that already has huge unemployment levels? Can you tell me the benefit of this country no longer trading largely to the commonwealth? Can you tell me the benefit of giving resources to the EU?
Quote:Financialy? Well every EU member has to pay a fee into a central European cashpot (European central Bank) these funds are then used to finance European interests and are invested into buisnesses and inferstructure in the poorest regions of the EU, which helped Poland boom, in the case of Germany is mostly the east, in the case of Italy the south, in the Case of the UK Scotland and the north of England and in the case of Rumania and Bulgaria various regions.Doesn't appear to be working...

Quote:Investment are and will be going to Portugal and Spain aswell probably.
Another bailout? Can the other EU countries afford this? In this economic climate? Have you asked the people of those countries( the ones paying for this) if they're happy with this?
Quote:Norway follows every single bit of EU legislation created in the EU parlament despite not being a member. It is also part of the trade treaty, meaning that it will probably join in in a few years.Then it's news to me. And farewell to their economy if what you're saying is true.
Quote:People weren`t given the vote on the abolishment of the death penalty, equal rights for women and the decriminalisation of homosexuality in the 20`s to the 60`s in all countries throughout Europe, although it was well known that public opinion was against such messures, up to 60 percent in Germany and even more in France and the UK. Read that in a study on the limitations of total democracy.You're talking about human rights, bit different from forcing a free nation to join the EUSSR. The majority wanted us to stay out of the EU, still do. The French voted no on EU, the EU demanded another vote. The EU has resulted to bullying, same with Greece, Ireland. A lot of people in these countries don't want to be part of the EU. Start a poll in Greece or Spain, see what you get. Ask the people if they voted to join the EU and if they want to leave it. Will you allow them a referendum or deny them it?
It also gives the example that Swizerland was the last country to give equal rights to women, the last country to decriminalise homosexuality and the last country to abolish the death penalty in 1989 in Europe (Although technicaly speaking I left out all eastern European countries which still had the death penalty after the east block fell appart)
Swizerland also forced women to have an abortion and be steralised who would have had a child out of wedlock up until the 1970s.
Ironicaly, these inhumane things wouldnt have been legal there for such a long time if their democracy was less direct and if they would have joined the EU. But instead they prefer to launder the mobs money and support organised crime in Europe.
So, were gay rights made legal, women given equal rights and the death penalty abolished in countries accross Europe against populat support because these countries were dictatorships?
Quote:Meaning, I dont vote for parties which have homophobic, racist, antisemetic, fashist, nationalistic, religious or sexist programs in their party book.UKIP isn't racist, I'm not sure it has nothing to do with homophobia or sexism.
And if I cant vote in the country where these parties are on the ballot, I will object and protest them.
Many UKIP members were once conservative, they split off and formed their own political group in response to the EU. Stating that joining it was unfair, undemocratic and that we should be allowed a referendum, for which I support.
If UKIP gives us a referendum, that's a step in the right direction. I won't vote for Lab, Lib or Con. They've shown how corrupt they are.
http://youtu.be/kM8mMQ6l47I?t=38s
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence - Carl Sagan
Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity.
Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist.
You never really know just how stupid someone is, until you've argued with them.
Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity.
Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist.
You never really know just how stupid someone is, until you've argued with them.