Britain leaving the EU

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Now you're just being deliberately stupid.

Well, you said there is a 70-30 splitt of which the 70 go to Europe.
And since Fatcher closed your coal mines I guess you are talking about financial resources.

So does this really exist or did you make that up out of thin air?

Actually leaving the EU won't prevent us trading with European nations, or any other country. Plus we won't have to pay the bastard EU pricks 53 million a day just to remain a member, and...we'd have control over our borders again. It's a triple win.

Actualy, it would. Because your companies would have to pay taxes on whatever you export into a EU country. Like I mentioned about 3 times or maybe even 4. Because you dont have a trade agreement with any EU country, only the EU free trade treaty.

Talking stupid again...

How so? You said the EU determines whit whom you can trade?

Well yes, the EU forbidds the import of overseas meat products and gene manipulated food.

Or did you mean something else? Because there isn`t actualy anything else.

Don't make me laugh. Funny how EU managed to turn the Greek government into a puppet one. The Greeks want out! Start a poll if you want.

Wasnt the EU alone, it was the EU, the IMF and the giver nations.

Those who gave the money for the bailout, told the greek goverment that they could only have it if they interduced austerity mesures.

And it`s the greeks own fault.

Previously you said Greece went downhill after it joined the EU, now you say after the bailouts?

Greece went downhill since the 80s since it hav built up an uterly corrupted buisness and social culture which aquired massive dept.

The stupid British government still gives India aid. Billions in fact. You know that?

And India`s economy grows and exports.
And thereby suckes up every single job which can be outsourced.

So? It happened in China, it is now happening in India and it will happen tomorrow in Africa. It is called development and is something positive, since it spreads wealth.

If you think they can continue without British aid, vote for a party which will stop giving aid.

Not surprised about Poland, many of them work over here, receive much higher pay than they would in Poland and return wealthy. Many foreigners are doing that. Milking the system dry.

Do you realy think that the entire or biggest part of the polish economical rise came through poles in Britain??????????????????????

Yeah I saw that - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-17176616

Yeah austerity isn`t nice. But unlike Portugal and Spain it`s the greeks own fault so I dont feel sorry for them.

Their goverment spent billions on worthless shit, was uterly coorupt, rich people paied no taxes, the public sector was hopelessly bloated and they had the guts to tell everyone that everything was alright, whilest living like this for 30 years.

From my opinion they dont even deserve the bailout, they but this mess on themselves and they should live with it.

Portugal and Spain were fucked over by events that their people didn`t carry any responsibility for, they deserve the money that we are giving to Greece.

Can I ask you something? Have you ever lost your job to a foreign worker? Have you ever had trouble getting a place of your own without foreigners taking it first? Have you watched your town/city's stores empty and abandoned and more going the same way?

Nope, never was.
Still it wouldnt make me nationalistic or feel supirior towards other nationalities.

You know the EU's presidents? Who elected them? Many officials got in without being elected.

The President: Emanual Barosso, from Portugal, elected by the officials in the EU parlament, who themselves were elected.
We have the same system in Germany where parlament elects the president.

And all comissars and ministers were appointed by an elected parlament.

You know a better party that will deliver on it's promises on an EU referendum and not have all the downsides that many others have?

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Do you really believe leaving the EU will solve every problem the UK has?

I do have other political interests. The EU doesnt dominate the policies of a country because every nation is its own sovereign.

Go to first page of this thread, I posted a vid there, different person. I think he's pretty rational.

Yeah I am suscribed to him.

He builds his entire argument on the fact that Berlusconi and Papandreo had to leave office in their countries.

Papandreo offered a referendom on the EU after receiving a billion euro bailout by Germany, France and Finland.
Those 3 nations made it clear to him that they wanted their money back anyway if Greece votes out.
So he went and with him the referendum.

Do you know a bank where I can take a multi million dollar loan and then simply "chose" to not pay it back again?

Berlusconi simply had to go, I dont even think that I have to explain that.

So no, the union does not undermine other nations democracy as Pat so theatrically announced.

Oh and if you have been watching the news, more potential civil unrest in Greece, Spain, UK and other nations are expected. Don't know about you, but I think people want out.

I dont know, when I see greece in the news today I see them wearing nazi uniforms, which makes me think that they only produce nazi uniforms today.
Considering that they are still one of the corruptest nations in Europe and that most people there still dont pay tax, I think they should actualy be kicked out.

Considering Spain and Portugal, I see them protesting austerity and poverty and not against the EU.

There will not be some mythical "civil war" as your video proclaims, there is social unrest, which happens everywhere where there is poverty.