(October 27, 2009 at 10:16 am)rjh4 Wrote:(October 27, 2009 at 10:03 am)Eilonnwy Wrote: Are you saying no one would die for a lie?
I am saying that it is quite unlikely for someone to die for a lie while knowing it was a lie. I do think it possible for people to die for a lie when they are convinced it is the truth. But to die for a lie when you know it is a lie? Why would someone do that? What could they possibly gain from it?
People would die for a lie all the time. First, people could be protecting something, like a child. A person could be tortured into admitting a lie only to die and end the torture. However, I'm certain you're insisting that a person would not willingly die for a lie and without coercion. I will also accept the premise I assume you are espousing, that these people were not tricked (Therefore, I won't argue they were delusional and wrong, and believed they were right even though they were wrong). False confessions happen all. the. time. There was somewhere around 200 confessions in the case of the Lindbergh kidnapping. Jon Mark Karr confessed to killing JonBennet Ramsey. False confessions are painfully common, even if the result would be death. Some come from police interrogation, but not all, as shown in the examples I gave. There is possibly a psychosis involved, which deals with the need for attention, even negative attention. So your premise is demonstrably false. Furthermore your questions demonstrate an argument from incredulity, the inability to imagine that someone would die for a lie.
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