RE: Why don't Christians pay Muslims the same respect ?
February 6, 2013 at 10:35 pm
(This post was last modified: February 6, 2013 at 10:47 pm by WinterHold.)
(February 6, 2013 at 7:16 pm)Drich Wrote: Aside from I don't generally care what people of your faith believe, this is the other reason I do not like speaking with you guys on religious matters. You don't know how to follow a conversation and direct your responses to the topics being discussed. This is either an intentional (Red Herring) or deflection, or it could be a general ignorance of polite conversation, or just more of that crazy Islamic Zeolusness, to go on about stuff I just do not give two squirts about.
If you can focous your efforts and stay on target, reset and try your response again. If not then the conversation from this point is yours.
Dear Drich, my lovely friend with a funny name !
Debate is not about my believe or yours, it's about the reader
As far as I know, these debates result in "nothing", but what I care about is the reader.
You should also care about the reader & start answering my post : )
Matter in fact ; I did everything you asked, the verses & everything else is there.
Just reply because avoiding it makes you look weird ! I have answered what you asked for ; in details just like you asked ??? next time don't ask for details if you can't read them.
(February 6, 2013 at 9:48 pm)paulpablo Wrote:Quote:"You would find that the most hostile people towards believers, are the Jews & the heathens, you would also find that the most cordial people towards believers, are the ones who said "we are Nasara" -nasara means christians ; the companions of christ- that because amongst them are pastors & monks, and they're not arrogant" sura 5, verse 82
This isnt being kind to christians, this is just a verse saying christians will be kind to muslims, taking into account the crusades id say the verse isnt that accurate
There is something called "the condition", if it's broken then the verse doesn't fit the situation.
The condition "or constraint" here is this :
that because amongst them are pastors & monks, and they're not arrogant
This fuck wasn't humble, he was the most vicious animal in europe :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Urban_II
and of course he was racist.
Quote:I, or rather the Lord, beseech you as Christ's heralds to publish this everywhere and to perse all people of whatever rank, foot-soldiers and knights, poor and rich, to carry aid promptly to those Christians and to destroy that vile race from the lands of our friends. I say this to those who are present, it is meant also for those who are absent. Moreover, Christ commands it.
and of course he was a bandit, a thieve & an invading fuck :
Quote:this land which you inhabit, shut in on all sides by the seas and surrounded by the mountain peaks, is too narrow for your large population; nor does it abound in wealth; and it furnishes scarcely food enough for its cultivators. Hence it is that you murder one another, that you wage war, and that frequently you perish by mutual wounds. Let therefore hatred depart from among you, let your quarrels end, let wars cease, and let all dissensions and controversies slumber. Enter upon the road to the Holy Sepulchre; wrest that land from the wicked race, and subject it to yourselves ... God has conferred upon you above all nations great glory in arms. Accordingly undertake this journey for the remission of your sins, with the assurance of the imperishable glory of the Kingdom of Heaven.
And also a white supremest -_-", because obviously he thinks that god favored the white european christians over all humanity, especially arab monkeys like me.
Anyway, this guy (who waged the crusades) was a bandit, thieve, racist, warlord & above all : not humble at all !!!
Which contradicts the condition of the verse. The verse if accurate, if the description fall fairly on the person : )