RE: Why don't Christians pay Muslims the same respect ?
February 7, 2013 at 10:18 am
(This post was last modified: February 7, 2013 at 10:21 am by WinterHold.)
(February 7, 2013 at 9:46 am)catfish Wrote:(February 7, 2013 at 9:35 am)AtlasS Wrote: I believe in the Quran from A-Z. I believe in all of it because god promised to keep it un-forged.
It doesn't apply on me, the believing in some of the Quran & ignoring the rest was the act of the arab heathens, I just copied the verse as an example that jews, christians & even heathens sometimes did the same act in not trusting the gospels as whole, which allowed forgery to happen.
You need to tell me what you think "book/books" mean.
"Book/books" mean the Jewish and Christian texts.
You say it doesn't apply to you, but you don't believe in all of the Torah and Bible. I say that it does apply to you if you don't believe them all 100%.
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The books are revealed by god to a certain prophet.
that prophet tells & dies.
the people after him take the books
they do whatever they want to it
In order to believe in the older books ; you need to believe in the blue part.
The god revealed, the prophet received, the prophet delivered.
and there I finally see your point
The Quran is considered "nasekh", the word "naskh" means "deletes what's before it", which means that if you wanted to belong to muslims, you take the last book ; because the last one "elements" what's before it, it contains the new pillars which match our world today.
Hence ; god already told us that they are forged & useless today, about the jews and what they did to their book (and why hell isn't mentioned in their books anymore) :
"Woe to those who write the book with their own hands then say : that was revealed from god, just to fetch a small price -money-, woe to what they wrote with their hands, and woe to what they earn (79)
And they said ; hellfire will touch us only for few days, did you take an oath on god ? god would never break his oath -that nobody is above hell ; even prophets- or do you say on god what you don't know ? (80)"
Sura 2, verses 79 + 80
So, we already know that jews did change their religion, so why do we believe in their books after they were forged ?
Do you get what I'm saying ?
We believe that the original texts were revealed to the prophets, but where are they ?
Yeah off topic but about hell : the jews removed the verses of hell from their book, because they thought that they would never visit it, or it will touch them for mere days, the days are even countable.
