RE: Why don't Christians pay Muslims the same respect ?
February 7, 2013 at 5:37 pm
(This post was last modified: February 7, 2013 at 6:09 pm by paulpablo.)
(February 6, 2013 at 11:20 pm)AtlasS Wrote:(February 6, 2013 at 10:54 pm)paulpablo Wrote: Theres no condition in the verse, its saying christians will be the most cordial to muslims, because amongst them are pastors and monks, they are humble.
Thats like me saying to my friend "this new guy in work is really cordial to get along with, its because he is quite humble and he is also kind" then when my friend gets his legs blown off by a shotgun fired by this man. Then in my friends dying words he says "You said he was cordial" Then me saying "yeh but he wasnt kind, so that breaks the condition of him being cordial"
That proves your poor judgement
#Note : the next line contains a stupid joke ; ignore it if you wanna cut to the point
First of all ; most "cordial & very nice people" might be serial killers ! so you should know that before telling your friend that the new guy is nice, never heard about fish ? he was the nicest old man on earth ; turns out to be a cannibal & a pedophile, WTF ? he ate a little girl's vagina (a true character, and I have the worst joking sense).
Secondly, the point.
I wasn't joking when I said that you have a poor judgement. You're not a god, so your judgement would always be inaccurate, to a limit .
Then, you specified a person (with his name), which is a second mistake.
The Quran deals with rules. Through out the book, some people are specified with names ; most of them are dead already.
The rule is where the condition stands.
For the example, the verse which specifies that Ibraham was praying. If wasn't praying in reality (and you've saw him), then yes ; the verse is false.
But when another verse says, that unbelievers are in hell because "they didn't believe in god", can we use this verse to judge anybody ?
Actually this is a verse of a general rule. Non-believers go to hell, but since we don't know the future, I can't say that you -paulpablo- are in hell. All I can say is : god is so divine, he doesn't accept you turning your back & not believe in him, and he punishes those who don't believe in him with hell.
but are you in hell ? as paulpablo ? I don't know, only god knows.
That's the difference. Here it was a general rule, christians are somehow better because they have monks & pastors who aren't arrogant.
So still, can I judge all christians ? nope, I don't if the monks & pastors ,the bumble ones, are still there or not.
i dont know what half of this babble means, the verse is false, theres no condition in the verse, either im just way more stupid than i thought or youre babbling to try and make excuses for the quran
it says christians will be most cordial TOWARDS MUSLIMS therefore the crusades is an example of them NOT being cordial towards muslims.
Your just attempting to bend over backwards and change word definitions to make the quran sound correct and failing really badly
you made the point that a serial killer might be described as nice, BUT NO ONE WOULD DESCRIBE THEM AS BEING NICE TO THE PERSON THEY KILLED
therefore the quran is wrong when it says christians will be most cordial towards believers, they werent, and it says they will be most cordial BECAUSE among them are monks who are humble
BECAUSE
because isnt a conditional word
it would be conditional if the sentence said
the christians will be most cordial towards muslims IF they are humble
but it doesnt, it says BECAUSE so you can stop trying to use deceptive tactics to change words
thanks
Quote:So still, can I judge all christians ? nope, I don't if the monks & pastors ,the bumble ones, are still there or not.
more nonsense babble, according to you the quran is always right, and it just told you christians do have monks and pastors among them, so if the quran is always right then christians must always have monks and pastors among them, if they dont then the quran is wrong
Finally just to clear things up for you let me explain how people use the word "because" in sentences since you are having difficulty.
The cat didnt feel hungry anymore BECAUSE it ate the fish
You can assume that the cat DID eat the fish in this sentence
The man was rich BECAUSE he made wise investments
you can assume the man DID make wise investments in this sentence because as it says at the begining, he is rich and its because he made the investments.
The christians will be most cordial to the believers BECAUSE among them are monks and pastors who are humble
You can assume the christians are going to be most cordial towards muslims because there will be pastors and monks among them who are humble.
The sentence would be inacurate if
1 the christians didnt have monks or pastors among them, because the sentence says they do have monks and pastors among them, it doesnt say IF they have monks and pastors among them
2 the christians arent cordial towards muslims
3 the monks and pastors arent always humble
hence it is inacurate, no verbal gymnastics no excuses, its just simly wrong
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