(November 4, 2009 at 6:08 pm)Tiberius Wrote: But by this very discussion you wouldn't see any evidence anyway surely? Science works for our universe, and the point was that if other universes exist, we can't detect them (at least not yet) scientifically since they may operate with other laws of physics.
But that is just it. It is all just speculation. I encourage scientists to look for any evidence for alternate universes but until they do I am not going to assume anything like an outside of our universe.
(November 4, 2009 at 6:08 pm)Tiberius Wrote: Asking for evidence of something that cannot have evidence by definition is pointless.
Which has my point exactly. http://atheistforums.org/thread-2147-pos...l#pid40027
You are using a definition based on a set of hypotheses while I use the term universe exactly as I said before, everything that exists, has existed, and will exist.
My point is and has been all along that if there is a future possibility to detect this "outside" the universe then it is part of the Universe. You may call that reality, that is your prerogative, but unless you can show me why that part is not just an up to now unknown part of the universe I do not see any reason to change my opinion on this matter.
As for laws of physics working differently in other universes, that too is a possibility but should we be able to detect their effects in this universe that means that their are either more laws at play than the ones we know to be working in our part of the universe, or our laws as we know them may be proven to be wrong, or they may be some other reason that I can't think of. Either way we would need data to verify and test.
What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.
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Leo van Miert
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Leo van Miert
Horsepower is how hard you hit the wall --Torque is how far you take the wall with you