Religion and LGBT people

[Gabriel Syme]

1. Opinion.

Hi Alternate

It is not "opinion" that the bodies of same sex couples are not naturally physical compatible, like those of a heterosexual couple are.

(This is why homosexuals have to use artificial means -lubricants etc - to overcome the fact that their bodies are not naturally compatible.)

This is biological fact. What you say is downright stupid.

You atheists seem to be of pretty low intelligence. With some notable exceptions, I am very disappointed with the level of intellect I have encountered on this site so far.

I do not take any pleasure in using words like "stupid", but in cases like this, there is nothing else for it.

2. This is true. But most people don't have sex for procreation, so this is also a pointless argument which affects nothing.

People cannot choose to have sex only for pleasure, or only for procreation.

Both aspects are inherent in any incidence of heterosexual sex. You cannot separate them.

What people do is have sex for pleasure, whilst hoping that artificial means will prevent the procreation aspect.

Unfortunately, this does not always work, which is why we encounter so many unwanted pregnancies.

Here you are making the mistake of arguing based on your own point of view, not based on reality.

Cheers
GS

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@ Festive1

Hi there,

I note your last post goes into discussing clerical celibacy - if you want to talk about that, Id be happy to on another thread. Let us not muddy the waters of HIV etc discussion here.

PS - id expect a better source that "the daily beast". I just had a quick look and at a glance its current headlines are:

- are you in an asteroid danger zone?
- 6 secrets from the new beyonce movie
- weeks best fashion instagrams
- this week in viral videos
- OMG I want this house

Better to use credible news or scientific sources, not "news-entertainment" sources.

Cheers
GS

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No, it means I'm heartily sick and tired of arguing with arrogant, self righteous arse holes who think they have the right to impose their bigoted hateful ways on others.

Translation -

"argh, the clever Catholic man managed to prove his point using factual data and impartial sources.

Quick - say something erroneous about bigotry or hate."

Hmm, let's look at these two points.....

1) Unifying act of love between partrners
And why should it matter what their gender is.

2) Possibility of procreation

Since there is NO possibility of us EVER having children for medical reasons ( Hysterectomony AND vasestomy) your argument is invalid.

I have already explained this to you badger. Again, briefly:

1) homosexual acts are not unifying like heterosexual sex are - because their bodies are not complimentary in the way heterosexual sex is. A unifying act of physical love is where two partners combine their sexual organs and both experience pleasure for it. Homosexuals cannot combine their sexual organs - they do not combine with each other. (eg this is why gay men have to combine their sex organ with their partners anus). You are denying reality.

2) my point is not invalid because you have undergone medical surgery to destroy the natural function of your sex organs. If you had not done this, (for reasons of health or choice), and your organs still functioned, then there would be a chance of procreation occurring. My point is valid.

And this last bit.... Well, you'd better have some stats to back up your assertion or I'm calling you a fucking liar.

I have already presented detailed statistics to show you this - please go back and read them.

We seem to have arrived at the point where my facts are bouncing off the brick wall of your own personal prejudices / bias.

Knock down that brick wall and consider the facts impartially.

Cheers dude
GS