(March 2, 2013 at 7:44 pm)jstrodel Wrote:(March 2, 2013 at 7:27 pm)Question Mark Wrote: And you have evidence for all of this, I assume? You have evidence that you can provide that supports your assertion that faith is superior to thinking, in deciding what's best for humanity, and that your god approves of the method?
Also, I'd just like to say for the part at the beginning of your comment, just a little thing. Fuck you.
If you're going to address someone, the first thing out of your mouth should not be aspersions cast upon their intellectual integrity and maturity. So grow up, and learn some damn respect for other people before you decide to be a juvenile prick, okay?
Well, the last time I posted that is what I got, a bunch of jokes about masturbation (you can find the thread if you want, it is in the philosophy forum).
I am sorry if you did not deserve it, rebuke your atheist friends the next time they treat people with disrespect. I removed the original message because it is a different thread.
The evidence is my experience. My lack of moral authority caused me to have the need to seek out what the nature of that authority was. I saw that perhaps God may reveal himself in the ancient traditions. I did not know, but I believed that maybe God would. And as I sought God more and more and more I realized more and more that he was real.
Necessarily, if thinking is the source of morality, and is indeterminate, so will morality be indeterminate.
There is no way to say that thinking is superior to anything else, there are so many varieties of thinking and so many movements, how can you possibly generalize about all of them?
Religious faith is a test to see whether people value some sense of truth more than there own appreciation of the nature of truth. Faith is like you are walking toward what may give you the answer, as you get closer and closer, you meet him. I have seen so many miracles and so many displays of the power of God. It starts through realizing that there must be more than your opinions and what you want.
And for those who tried faith, and found nothing? When faith is proven demonstrably faulty?
If you experienced something, it's not for me to say one way or the other if you did or didn't, but that experience happened to you, and no one else is justified in believing in something that happened to you.
For instance, what constitutes a miracle for you? These things you've seen, these supposed instances of god's power. What happened?
If you believe it, question it. If you question it, get an answer. If you have an answer, does that answer satisfy reality? Does it satisfy you? Probably not. For no one else will agree with you, not really.