Quote:Could you possibly stereotype us any more? According to you, we're all porn-addicted, intrinsically dishonest, pot-smoking, anime-watching, videogame-toting, adolescent-behavioured, pro-choice, child-corrupting, liberal, money-grubbing, nihilistic, sex-addicted, arrogant, theologically clueless, assholes.
You didn't make any argument there. Of course not all atheists fit those stereotypes. The fact that something is a stereotype does not make it false, and calling it a stereotype does not prove it is false. Political correctness is not one of the pillars reality is constructed upon.
Quote:How damn dare you, you condescending, close-minded, high-horsed, sanctimonious, strawman-constructing, theist.
condescending - I am never condescending to people in real life, unless I feel it is merited. I think it is worth being condescending to atheists that use the internet and the allure of sex and freedom and false arguments to ensnare young people. This is a fact that this happens.
close-minded - I am not close minded. Politically I have been a radical for much of my life and I still am to some degree. I majored in philosophy in college and have studied many atheist books. I try to understand the truth whether it agrees with my theology or not, and try and reconcile them afterwards. I think you would find me to be a very likeable fellow in real life.
high-horsed - I am not high horsed, but I do consider myself to be better than those who try to lead young people into nihilism by using sex and drugs. This is a substantial portion of the atheist community (not all).
sanctimonious - I am a sinner like everyone else.
strawmen - Where do you see a strawman?
Quote:If I had any confidence that you had the capacity to accept that those who don't follow along in the wake of your sadistic, misogynistic, homophobic, morally bankrupt religion, aren't all the reprehensible sludge of society you imagine them to be, then I'd take the time to point it out to you.
It is not that I imagine atheists to be something, it is that I was an atheist. I am not homophobic, I have actually flirted with homosexuality in my life. I am not misogynistic either, and to call the Christian teachings on women (whether conservative or liberal) misogynistic is to seriously misunderstand them. Many protections exist for women in Christian community that are absolutely lacking outside, whether the bar scene or the abortion clinic or the porno studio.
Quote:I think it'd be best if you just left, frankly, because I'm fairly confident that you'll never accept that the world can't be the black and white way you want it to be.
What makes you think the world I live in is black and white? I spend many hours every day analyzing language and culture and the epistemology and logic of the world around me. I spend probably 4 hours a day or so doing this, just thinking.
I acknowledge that there are plenty of Christians out there who do the same things atheists do, but a lot of the time it is because they are influenced by the atheistic culture of rock and roll, hollywood and the universities and the bar scene. It is true that Christians fall, but it is also true that the atheist movement, to a large degree spreads a net for their feet.
