The Case for Theism

[Drew_2013]

It's because in part it's the best explanation for why we find ourselves alive and in a universe that allows our existence.

No, it isn't. As a matter of fact, that inclusion is no only a non-explanation, it prevents you from looking for the correct one.

Is this an example of the brilliant logic you allegedly refuted my arguments with?

No, they aren't. As you have been corrected on this point before, you should know better.

Just because you disagree doesn't mean a damn thing.

And many more that contradict it.

Good I hope this time you get around to making a case.

Secondly if I were to reject the belief that God created the universe and humans I would have to be persuaded that mindless lifeless forces somehow coughed a universe into existence and without plan or intent caused the right conditions for life to occur.

As indicated many, many times before - false dichotomy. There are many other options available.

You are under the delusion that because you say something, that makes it so. What are these other options you refer to? If you want to claim I am spouting a false dichotomy then man up and say something other than because I say so.

A dead body, by itself, is not sufficient evidentiary cause to raise the existence of a murderer. You first have to establish cause of death.

Of course, but usually the first step on the road to that end is to produce a dead body.

If the death could not have been caused by natural mechanisms and indicative of intention behind it, then you have cause to suspect murderer. If it was not caused naturally, but there was no indication of intention, then it is happenstance or accident. Then there is the third option - where it is the consequence of natural mechanisms. In fact, that third option is what a coroner starts with unless he can see evidence to the contrary.

What is natural mechanisms and how do they differ from happenstance or accident?

Similarly, the default position for us with regards to the universe would be that it is the consequence of natural mechanisms unless there is indication of the supernatural. And in that case our options might be if it happened by plan or by happenstance.

What natural mechanism causes the existence of a universe? Besides in the other thread you declared the universe didn't come into existence and therefore wouldn't be the consequence of anything.

The same is not true for the universe. We've neither seen nor known any other universes to compare it to. So we cannot even say that it had a cause or that it didn't always exist.

The weight of evidence is it began to exist (in the configuration we now observe) about 13 and half billion years ago. Assuming it was a singularity at one point that is nothing like a universe.

If never-alive bodies were available in this world, then your so called "dead" body wouldn't even be evidentiary cause to indicate death - let alone murder and let alone a murderer.

You should be a stand up comedian...