The Case for Theism

[genkaus]

Lets attempt to limit this discussion to known facts. If the day comes the existence of other universes is a fact then we can consider it. Since life does exist as does the universe thats what the debate is about.

Lets. Since it is also a known fact that the universe largely - and I use the term conservatively - does not support life - the more accurate statement would be "existence of god is not the best explanation for why we find ourselves alive in a universe that only barely and minimally allows for our existence".

It doesn't but we have to use words that make sense to us.

And that's the problem - instead of widening your horizons and coming up with words to indicate concepts indescribable by current vocabulary - you choose existing words with specific connotations to undercut the concept itself.

I don't have faith in God, I believe God exists due to evidence in favor of that belief as well as lack of evidence of some other mechanism that can account for our existence.

You ignore all the evidence against that, you ignore all the logical contradictions resulting from the existence of such an entity and you ignore the fact that your so-called evidence is sketchy and non-indicative at best. Sounds like textbook case of faith to me.

I was just wondering because I have a feeling you are about to get your ass handed to you.

I doubt that.

Why? You are using all the old arguments you got your ass handed to you upon the last time. Why do you expect anything less this time?