(March 5, 2013 at 11:48 pm)jstrodel Wrote: The fact that you are calling a logical "fallacy" developed by an atheist to support atheism a fallacy is fallacious.
Of course not all Christians are identical. This is the most absurd thing I have ever heard. You do not measure a group by simply including in that group anyone that claims membership. If I said I was a democrat, but voted republican in every single election in the last 30 years, you would not call me a democrat. You would say - "I don't care what that person says about himself, he is a Republican". The idea of "No True Scotsman" presupposes so much about the nature of language that is absolutely contrary to ordinary usage. Language does not describe the world according to the labels that people assign themselves, it describes the features of the world as they exist.
So, what? You determine who's christian or not by their acts? But how do you develop a metric for that, given that so much of what modern christians believe is a watered down and reinterpreted version of what's actually in the bible?
I am just as much correct to judge violent actions as christian by the violent acts in that damn book as you are to do otherwise. In the end, it all comes down to the fact that you want to exclude any inconvenient members from your club and claim moral superiority, doesn't it?
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