Hello Apophenia
It is relevant. This isn't a debating class where someone is given a topic and a side to defend that they may or may not care about and all they want to do is win the debate. I'd like to believe the folks I am discussing this issue with are arguing in favor of atheism because they honestly and sincerely believe God doesn't exist and they have good valid reasons to think so as well as facts that lead them to this conclusion. If all they're are reduced to is raising objections by creating some hypothetical out of thin air they don't actually subscribe to then only people they will persuade to their point of view are fellow atheists who already share their view. What do you think would be the result if we were debating this topic before an audience of impartial people who are weighing our respective arguments and facts and my adversary admits even he doesn't subscribe to the objection he is raising. I know he'll explain to the audience its completely irrelevant whether I believe the line of bullshit I am promoting whats important is I attempt to fool you dim wits.
I have no idea what you're trying to say here...but it would seem to apply to anything that could be said.
Quote:Whether or not anybody believes in these alternative explanations is completely irrelevant.
It is relevant. This isn't a debating class where someone is given a topic and a side to defend that they may or may not care about and all they want to do is win the debate. I'd like to believe the folks I am discussing this issue with are arguing in favor of atheism because they honestly and sincerely believe God doesn't exist and they have good valid reasons to think so as well as facts that lead them to this conclusion. If all they're are reduced to is raising objections by creating some hypothetical out of thin air they don't actually subscribe to then only people they will persuade to their point of view are fellow atheists who already share their view. What do you think would be the result if we were debating this topic before an audience of impartial people who are weighing our respective arguments and facts and my adversary admits even he doesn't subscribe to the objection he is raising. I know he'll explain to the audience its completely irrelevant whether I believe the line of bullshit I am promoting whats important is I attempt to fool you dim wits.
Quote:As a simple matter of logic, if you exclude them for any other reason than their being unsound and untrue explanations of the facts, then you have constructed an argument that is logically invalid, and its conclusions are therefore of necessity a non sequitur. If you fail to demonstrate their implausibility or otherwise account for these hypotheses on substantive and material grounds, your conclusions are worthless.
I have no idea what you're trying to say here...but it would seem to apply to anything that could be said.