Heres the thing strodel, drugs are only destructive to destructive personalities. With the exception of nicotine, alcohol, meth. coke, heroin, or some of the street drugs I know of not. The drug in question, Ecstacy: is NOT habit forming. If there's a drug habit formed with it, it's from an addictive personality, not chemical dependence. That's why you're gettin slack, in my opinion. It's not destructive for all who use it, and the chemicals again: NOT habit forming. From my viewpoint, your case has about as much wherewithal as it would be if you were telling people 'harshly' that they shouldn't tell others that chocolate tastes awesome because some of those people might get a chocolate addiction and become a blimp.
I get your point, though. For some, it can take over their lives and pull them into a whole world. It happened to me, after all. At one point in my younger life I was a pill poppin alcoholic weed smokin mushroom taking coke dealer who stripped for fast cash and hung out with guys who answered their doors with a shotgun pointed at the peephole. It wasn't one particular drug that got me there, however. It was my weak personality--my lack of consideration for my own well being (or self loathing), and I wasn't at the mercy of a drug: they were at my mercy, being used for my will. And my will was to die, but I didn't have the courage to do it myself. So I used drugs (alcohol is a drug) to cover up my feelings, and hey double bonus because at the rate I was taking them they were killin me, anyways.
Most of those I know who still use shrooms or Ecstacy recreationally have no long term ill effects other than the obvious 'come down' which they are aware is coming and take it in stride. Obviously you put your life in someone else's hands if you get any kind of drug from a non-trusted/tested source. If they were legal, one wouldn't have to worry about one hit killers, now would they? Because the drugs like everything else would be regulated and taxed up the ass, and the young people who get them would be well informed. Ah but then, lets look at all those one hit killer cases shall we? Deaths related to MDMA (E), are primarily from hyponatremia, and heatstroke. Almost all those deaths involved alcohol. Hyponatremia caused by anxiety about having heatstroke (or thirst from alcohol use) where a MISINFORMED person drinks 7 liters in an hour and a half. Most of those statistics can be accounted to multiple drug useages and almost all included alcohol. Oh wait though alcohol is legal isn't it? Yep.
So, yes. In my opinion you're spinning your wheels telling people Fuck You for talking about the realities of drug useage. If you really cared, you'd give sound advice as you damn well know people are going to do it anyways. You wanna help? Stop throwing out misinformation or acting like the catholic church by telling people who are having sex that abstinence is the only way to avoid pregnancy. If you want to be an authority on drugs maybe you should know about the subject first and throw out all misinformation and preconceptions before you toss in your hate-filled verbiage.
I get your point, though. For some, it can take over their lives and pull them into a whole world. It happened to me, after all. At one point in my younger life I was a pill poppin alcoholic weed smokin mushroom taking coke dealer who stripped for fast cash and hung out with guys who answered their doors with a shotgun pointed at the peephole. It wasn't one particular drug that got me there, however. It was my weak personality--my lack of consideration for my own well being (or self loathing), and I wasn't at the mercy of a drug: they were at my mercy, being used for my will. And my will was to die, but I didn't have the courage to do it myself. So I used drugs (alcohol is a drug) to cover up my feelings, and hey double bonus because at the rate I was taking them they were killin me, anyways.
Most of those I know who still use shrooms or Ecstacy recreationally have no long term ill effects other than the obvious 'come down' which they are aware is coming and take it in stride. Obviously you put your life in someone else's hands if you get any kind of drug from a non-trusted/tested source. If they were legal, one wouldn't have to worry about one hit killers, now would they? Because the drugs like everything else would be regulated and taxed up the ass, and the young people who get them would be well informed. Ah but then, lets look at all those one hit killer cases shall we? Deaths related to MDMA (E), are primarily from hyponatremia, and heatstroke. Almost all those deaths involved alcohol. Hyponatremia caused by anxiety about having heatstroke (or thirst from alcohol use) where a MISINFORMED person drinks 7 liters in an hour and a half. Most of those statistics can be accounted to multiple drug useages and almost all included alcohol. Oh wait though alcohol is legal isn't it? Yep.
So, yes. In my opinion you're spinning your wheels telling people Fuck You for talking about the realities of drug useage. If you really cared, you'd give sound advice as you damn well know people are going to do it anyways. You wanna help? Stop throwing out misinformation or acting like the catholic church by telling people who are having sex that abstinence is the only way to avoid pregnancy. If you want to be an authority on drugs maybe you should know about the subject first and throw out all misinformation and preconceptions before you toss in your hate-filled verbiage.
Just for Perspective Wrote:The death rate for MDMA, assuming that there really were about 60 deaths directly caused by MDMA in 2000, would be roughly 2 in 100,000 users. The death rate from smoking, by contrast, is on the order of 400 per 100,000 users. Even alcohol, America's official "it's not really a drug" drug, nets about 50 deaths per 100,000 users each year. http://www.DEA.org
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.
Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
Quote:Some people deserve hell.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.
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