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Why hate Athiest?
RE: Why hate Athiest?
Nah, Strodel you missed my point completely. Or you just ignored it for the more immediate use to bolster your case. I wasn't addicted to drugs because I decided one day to light up a stick of marijuana. I lit up because I hated myself and life and my god, my family, my homelessness, my abuse, my abandonment, my body in sickness, everything about me I loathed and I wanted to forget and marijuana was my medicine in desperation. I grew out of the marijuana high pretty quick, got a job and made myself a nice little home. But I got more and more empty and desolate the more productive my life became. In the end, I secretly wanted it ended as quickly as possible. So I set no limits; I sped on the highway, I walked at night in the city alone, and the day a line of coke was offered to me I took it with no hesitation whatsoever. I even felt fulfilled in the knowledge that I was on a downward spiral and no one gave a shit enough to stop me.
The same can be said for a 500lb person who ate themselves into a diabetic coma because icecream tacos make them 'happy' (although eating is known to become chemically dependent, especially chocolate). Eventually they know it'll kill them because eventually it will, I just chose the more efficient way to do it with alcohol and coke. Mind you, I was in pre-med at the time so I don't really fit your stereotype. I owned my own car, I worked full time at various jobs, I had my own apartment, I was self sufficient completely, and all of that could be attributed to my drug connected and supported life at the time.

But that's besides the point. My point was: that people are responsible for their addictive behaviors for various psychological reasons, not the non-addictive drugs. People are responsible for how far down the rabbits hole they go. Becca isn't evil as you say, for saying "Hey I'm taking some E this weekend, gonna have a good time."
What about all those people who say, "I need a drink" or, "Fuck yeah it's friday lets get drunk!". Do you tell them FU with such vigor? In my opinion alcoholism is far worse than most drugs, and I personally believe getting drunk in a single use is far more harmful to your body than one hit of E --both physically, and mentally.

And what about the people born into life at the mercy of alcoholic fathers and drug-addicted mothers? You're right, it's a status quo and a reality for many people's lives. So, are you going to say to their faces, "hey it's not your dad's fault he hits you, it's just the alcohol. It's not your moms' fault she spent all the grocery money on some oxicontin, it's the white pills in that little bottle's fault!"
<<NO>>
I'd wanna slap you if I were that kid.

It's that mans' fault for becoming an alcoholic in the first place and not seeking treatment for the reasons he feels he needs to drink. Mom's fault for not biting the bullet and detoxing so her kids don't starve. I've been on the equivalent (prescribed legally by doctors) of a drug 100 times stronger than morphine, for years for a legitimate health reason and I got off the SECOND I wasn't in pain anyore. And I quit cold turkey for reasons far less than my childs' empty stomach. That bitch chooses drugs over her kids, she isn't being held at gunpoint by the pills.
As they say, guns don't kill people, PEOPLE kill people.
Oh and being a drug addict does NOT make you a thief by default. NOPE. Being a low standard asshole makes you a thief. There's always a choice.

The audience I think you are targeting here, are recreational users. And I disagree with how you are approaching the subject. If you truly lived my life, you would take responsibility for your actions and not blame it on some inanimate pill that isn't even chemically dependent. Even you would have to admit that not everyone ended up like you or your friends did. People break the law because they choose to, not because a pill told them to do it. On the other hand, people do things because a book told them to do it so I'm not going to throw out the possibility that some poor fools empty bag of Percocet told them to rob the pharmacy. Apparently praying to god can become just as addictive as anything else because it too releases serotonin, as well. Alongside with eating, exercising, and masturbation (all of which ARE habit forming) because we're intrinsically habit forming creatures. The thing is, we all have the power within ourselves to overcome any amount of chemical in our brain, and that is what should be your message.

Research suggests that people who used ecstasy at least 25 times had lowered serotonin levels for as long as a year after quitting.

The fact that you refuse to see that addictive drug use vs recreational use of nonaddictive substances is as different as black and white, and refuse to lay the blame where it lies: the people who take them for self medication purposes or the people who let those people spin out of control through inaction or ignorance: That. That is why the drug problem will continue to rise and become an issue. You're ignoring the real issue and fighting the wrong battle, friend. You wanna help? Really truly want to? Then face the true adversary: the reasons people feel so disheartened with life that they'd give up the value of their own. Fight to give those who want a way out of their despondent realities, a true out. Counseling and free mental healthcare would be a good step for those wanting out of their mental realities. Job corps would be a way for those born into drug infested and controlled lives a way out of their poverty. Or fight the misinformation in your own community. Fight the lack of mental and medical care. Fight the real life-altering chemicals like alcohol and heroin. Fight the laws that contribute to this status quo. Fight the social factors like abuse and neglect that inevitably lead to addicts. Fight the economic policies of your society that create an illegal market of jobs as being more viable than the 'straight' life. Fight the government that allows this to take place because they make money fighting it but never overcoming it. Fight anything, but fight something truly worth fighting for.
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!

Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.

Dead wrong.  The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.

Quote:Some people deserve hell.

I say again:  No exceptions.  Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it.  As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.

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Why hate Athiest? - by frz - February 16, 2013 at 11:33 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by CapnAwesome - February 16, 2013 at 11:45 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Esquilax - February 16, 2013 at 11:49 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by PyroManiac - February 25, 2013 at 11:30 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Angrboda - February 25, 2013 at 11:49 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by The Magic Pudding - February 17, 2013 at 7:41 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Angrboda - February 16, 2013 at 11:54 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by CleanShavenJesus - February 16, 2013 at 1:52 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by CapnAwesome - February 16, 2013 at 2:40 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by CleanShavenJesus - February 16, 2013 at 3:30 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Something completely different - February 16, 2013 at 4:14 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by CleanShavenJesus - February 17, 2013 at 1:45 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by CapnAwesome - February 16, 2013 at 7:39 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by yobbyy - February 22, 2013 at 10:32 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Angrboda - February 22, 2013 at 10:36 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Dee Dee Ramone - February 16, 2013 at 4:01 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by My imaginary friend is GOD - February 16, 2013 at 4:03 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by iameatingjam - February 20, 2013 at 8:12 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Zone - February 16, 2013 at 4:21 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by dg-pilz-e - February 16, 2013 at 6:26 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Minimalist - February 16, 2013 at 8:10 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Neo-Scholastic - February 16, 2013 at 10:23 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by FallentoReason - February 16, 2013 at 10:31 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Mystical - February 17, 2013 at 12:47 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Finn - February 17, 2013 at 3:05 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Zen Badger - February 17, 2013 at 6:12 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by downbeatplumb - February 17, 2013 at 7:59 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by ThomM - February 17, 2013 at 8:34 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by paulpablo - February 20, 2013 at 8:22 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Neo-Scholastic - February 21, 2013 at 2:31 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by paulpablo - February 21, 2013 at 5:52 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by paulpablo - February 21, 2013 at 6:02 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by fr0d0 - February 20, 2013 at 8:57 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by The Grand Nudger - February 21, 2013 at 12:37 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by fr0d0 - February 21, 2013 at 1:08 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - February 21, 2013 at 2:40 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by LastPoet - February 21, 2013 at 6:01 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by The Magic Pudding - February 22, 2013 at 9:11 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by The Grand Nudger - February 24, 2013 at 1:17 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - February 24, 2013 at 7:27 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by mr.atheist - February 24, 2013 at 10:30 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by fr0d0 - February 25, 2013 at 12:08 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by WinterHold - February 25, 2013 at 11:59 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Neo-Scholastic - February 26, 2013 at 12:52 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Question Mark - February 26, 2013 at 12:57 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Esquilax - February 26, 2013 at 1:17 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by LastPoet - February 26, 2013 at 1:30 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Mister Agenda - March 15, 2013 at 10:53 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by The Grand Nudger - February 25, 2013 at 1:59 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by WinterHold - February 25, 2013 at 6:14 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Question Mark - February 25, 2013 at 6:54 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Angrboda - February 25, 2013 at 8:50 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by The Magic Pudding - February 26, 2013 at 1:32 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by downbeatplumb - February 26, 2013 at 2:23 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by jstrodel - March 2, 2013 at 6:16 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by pocaracas - March 2, 2013 at 7:23 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Question Mark - March 2, 2013 at 7:43 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by jstrodel - March 2, 2013 at 9:26 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Confused Ape - March 3, 2013 at 7:13 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by archangle - March 3, 2013 at 12:48 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by jstrodel - March 5, 2013 at 8:57 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Darkstar - March 5, 2013 at 9:51 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by jstrodel - March 5, 2013 at 11:38 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Esquilax - March 5, 2013 at 11:43 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by jstrodel - March 5, 2013 at 11:48 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Esquilax - March 6, 2013 at 12:03 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by jstrodel - March 7, 2013 at 1:25 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Darkstar - March 7, 2013 at 10:36 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Neo-Scholastic - March 9, 2013 at 10:21 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by jstrodel - March 10, 2013 at 1:50 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Angrboda - March 10, 2013 at 2:42 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Darkstar - March 5, 2013 at 11:52 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Mister Agenda - March 15, 2013 at 11:34 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Mister Agenda - March 15, 2013 at 11:22 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - March 2, 2013 at 6:32 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by archangle - March 2, 2013 at 7:33 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Question Mark - March 2, 2013 at 9:43 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Angrboda - March 2, 2013 at 11:32 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Mystical - March 3, 2013 at 1:25 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by xXUKAtheistForTheTruthXx - March 3, 2013 at 6:47 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by xXUKAtheistForTheTruthXx - March 3, 2013 at 3:00 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by archangle - March 3, 2013 at 4:03 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by xXUKAtheistForTheTruthXx - March 3, 2013 at 5:22 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Mystical - March 5, 2013 at 9:42 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by jstrodel - March 6, 2013 at 12:03 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Mystical - March 7, 2013 at 2:28 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Confused Ape - March 6, 2013 at 8:39 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by EGross - March 7, 2013 at 10:45 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Gonzalo697 - March 9, 2013 at 8:59 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Mystical - March 9, 2013 at 10:54 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Neo-Scholastic - March 10, 2013 at 12:44 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Gabriel Syme - March 10, 2013 at 10:49 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by justin - March 10, 2013 at 1:19 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by CleanShavenJesus - March 10, 2013 at 2:25 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by jstrodel - March 10, 2013 at 2:48 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by CleanShavenJesus - March 10, 2013 at 3:04 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Angrboda - March 10, 2013 at 3:58 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by jstrodel - March 10, 2013 at 3:06 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by jstrodel - March 10, 2013 at 9:38 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by CleanShavenJesus - March 10, 2013 at 9:45 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Angrboda - March 10, 2013 at 10:52 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by jstrodel - March 10, 2013 at 9:48 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by CleanShavenJesus - March 10, 2013 at 9:52 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by jstrodel - March 10, 2013 at 9:54 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by CleanShavenJesus - March 10, 2013 at 10:01 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by MysticKnight - March 10, 2013 at 10:01 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by jstrodel - March 10, 2013 at 11:01 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Angrboda - March 10, 2013 at 11:40 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by jstrodel - March 10, 2013 at 11:45 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Angrboda - March 11, 2013 at 2:31 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by jstrodel - March 11, 2013 at 11:47 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Mystical - March 12, 2013 at 10:27 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by jstrodel - March 12, 2013 at 11:09 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by thesummerqueen - March 12, 2013 at 11:30 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by JDS - March 12, 2013 at 11:47 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Angrboda - March 13, 2013 at 12:06 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by jstrodel - March 13, 2013 at 12:40 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Angrboda - March 13, 2013 at 1:08 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by jstrodel - March 13, 2013 at 10:03 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Angrboda - March 13, 2013 at 12:35 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by jstrodel - March 14, 2013 at 12:49 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Esquilax - March 14, 2013 at 2:46 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by jstrodel - March 14, 2013 at 10:15 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Darkstar - March 14, 2013 at 10:35 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by jstrodel - March 15, 2013 at 10:22 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Darkstar - March 15, 2013 at 3:17 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Mystical - March 14, 2013 at 10:37 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by jstrodel - March 15, 2013 at 10:33 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Nine - March 15, 2013 at 10:37 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Mystical - March 13, 2013 at 1:19 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by thesummerqueen - March 13, 2013 at 7:20 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Mystical - March 13, 2013 at 9:44 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by thesummerqueen - March 13, 2013 at 9:48 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by LastPoet - March 13, 2013 at 9:53 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by pocaracas - March 13, 2013 at 10:33 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by thesummerqueen - March 13, 2013 at 10:36 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Darkstar - March 13, 2013 at 10:48 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Confused Ape - March 13, 2013 at 11:43 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by thesummerqueen - March 13, 2013 at 12:42 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Confused Ape - March 13, 2013 at 12:44 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by thesummerqueen - March 15, 2013 at 8:34 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by jstrodel - March 15, 2013 at 10:50 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by thesummerqueen - March 15, 2013 at 10:25 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by thesummerqueen - March 15, 2013 at 10:58 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by jstrodel - March 15, 2013 at 11:08 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by thesummerqueen - March 15, 2013 at 11:14 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by thesummerqueen - March 15, 2013 at 11:32 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by jstrodel - March 15, 2013 at 3:28 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Darkstar - March 15, 2013 at 3:44 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Something completely different - March 15, 2013 at 3:47 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Something completely different - March 15, 2013 at 3:31 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by thesummerqueen - March 15, 2013 at 3:31 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by jstrodel - March 15, 2013 at 3:42 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Darkstar - March 15, 2013 at 3:50 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by jstrodel - March 15, 2013 at 3:48 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by thesummerqueen - March 15, 2013 at 3:52 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by jstrodel - March 15, 2013 at 3:54 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Angrboda - March 16, 2013 at 1:09 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Silver - March 16, 2013 at 1:16 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Angrboda - March 16, 2013 at 1:43 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by jstrodel - March 16, 2013 at 12:10 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Esquilax - March 16, 2013 at 12:47 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Mister Agenda - March 18, 2013 at 12:41 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by jstrodel - March 18, 2013 at 8:49 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by CapnAwesome - March 18, 2013 at 9:13 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by thesummerqueen - March 16, 2013 at 12:40 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by thesummerqueen - March 18, 2013 at 8:59 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Neo-Scholastic - March 19, 2013 at 7:54 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by jstrodel - March 18, 2013 at 9:02 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by CleanShavenJesus - March 18, 2013 at 9:19 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by thesummerqueen - March 18, 2013 at 9:05 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by jstrodel - March 18, 2013 at 9:54 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by CleanShavenJesus - March 19, 2013 at 4:21 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by jstrodel - March 19, 2013 at 9:45 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by CleanShavenJesus - March 20, 2013 at 4:45 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by The Grand Nudger - March 19, 2013 at 2:38 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Angrboda - March 19, 2013 at 8:10 pm

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