RE: Obama Haters checkmate!
March 14, 2013 at 10:40 pm
(This post was last modified: March 14, 2013 at 11:04 pm by Darth.)
And one of the forbes rebuttals:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/peterferrara...history/2/
The first important point it makes is that bush's last proposed budget had a 3% increase in spending compared to the already obscene year before.
The democrat controlled congress passed a budget with a nearly 18% increase. So blaming Bush while completely absolving Obama/the democrats isn't exactly fair
Seccond, what's that graph even showing? Constant dollar trillions per term? Growth in spending as a percentage?
Here is the original graph, with more axes/title information, from the article that's linked in that graph you posted
![[Image: MW-AR658_spendi_20120521163312_ME11.jpg]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=blogs-images.forbes.com%2Frickungar%2Ffiles%2F2012%2F11%2FMW-AR658_spendi_20120521163312_ME11.jpg)
First page of that article: http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/20...ack-obama/
Ah so it's growth in spending then, with that 18% increase budget apparently put on bush's shoulders*. And, according to the rebuttal article, not with obamacare included. And obama's spending is during a recession rather than a boom(bubble), and from a worse initial position...
Your graph does not show Obama being the best, it shoes how much worse each successive president was than the last (and even then, not particularly well, the graph still doesn't tell us exactly what we're looking at here). Like with wars, Bush starting two big ones, and then Obama only starting one but continuing that last two does not make him 50% better. It's 50% worse. Continuing bush's policies, adding to them, but not adding quite as fast, does not a good president make.
Checkmate!
And thanks tibs and a theist, the only two at all likely to thumbs this up.
*though the graph seems to say otherwise in a rather confusing way. The point your article is making is that it should be assigned to bush, why would he then make/link a graph, with the asterix on bush's, saying that it's been reassigned to Obama... I think it's supposed to say reassigned to bush, that's the point the first guy is trying to make, but either way, my main points stand.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/peterferrara...history/2/
The first important point it makes is that bush's last proposed budget had a 3% increase in spending compared to the already obscene year before.
The democrat controlled congress passed a budget with a nearly 18% increase. So blaming Bush while completely absolving Obama/the democrats isn't exactly fair
Seccond, what's that graph even showing? Constant dollar trillions per term? Growth in spending as a percentage?
Here is the original graph, with more axes/title information, from the article that's linked in that graph you posted
![[Image: MW-AR658_spendi_20120521163312_ME11.jpg]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=blogs-images.forbes.com%2Frickungar%2Ffiles%2F2012%2F11%2FMW-AR658_spendi_20120521163312_ME11.jpg)
First page of that article: http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/20...ack-obama/
Ah so it's growth in spending then, with that 18% increase budget apparently put on bush's shoulders*. And, according to the rebuttal article, not with obamacare included. And obama's spending is during a recession rather than a boom(bubble), and from a worse initial position...
Your graph does not show Obama being the best, it shoes how much worse each successive president was than the last (and even then, not particularly well, the graph still doesn't tell us exactly what we're looking at here). Like with wars, Bush starting two big ones, and then Obama only starting one but continuing that last two does not make him 50% better. It's 50% worse. Continuing bush's policies, adding to them, but not adding quite as fast, does not a good president make.
Checkmate!
And thanks tibs and a theist, the only two at all likely to thumbs this up.
*though the graph seems to say otherwise in a rather confusing way. The point your article is making is that it should be assigned to bush, why would he then make/link a graph, with the asterix on bush's, saying that it's been reassigned to Obama... I think it's supposed to say reassigned to bush, that's the point the first guy is trying to make, but either way, my main points stand.
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