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Why hate Athiest?
RE: Why hate Athiest?
So I noticed strodel gave me kudos on my statement on never having even smoked pot. I'd like to qualify this statement.

As I stated in the "smoking" thread - I have a smoke allergy. I cannot abide the smoke of cigarettes, cigars, pipes, incense...even bonfires out in the open will tax me. At first I'm "okay". Later in the night, if I'm lucky, it'll just be hard to breathe - possibly alleviated with an inhaler. If I'm not, my sinuses will start getting affected, turning into a sinus headache that can explode into a migraine. The problem seems to be getting worse as I get older (I'm about to turn 28) but I've had the sensitivity since I was 15. I selfishly can't go against states forcing public places to be smoke free, or restaurants, because now I can go to the bars with my friends and not spend the entire next day either suffering, or catatonic in bed.

So no, I haven't smoked pot. However, at the suggestion of others I'm quite willing to try it vaporized. Not in brownies though - I don't fuck up chocolate. Haven't gotten around to it though - they do randomized drug screenings here at work, and I'm lazy.

I feel the same about several other drugs, except with those I was more worried about someone being around that I could trust in case I had a bad trip. My boyfriend is the only one I would trust, and we've only been living together for two months now. There hasn't been time to dick around that way with all the life changes we've gone through (job changes, moving, visiting from parents, blah blah.)

I kudos'd luckie because that's the position both David and I hold. Personal responsibility comes first. Keeping nicotine and alcohol legal and marijuana (and several other drugs) illegal is a massive state of hypocrisy that only the government could come up with. Namely because they earn massive quantities of money off of the first two, provided everyone follows the laws laid down about their consumption.

I am very sorry about the things any of you have gone through, although I find it hilarious that all of the rationalist atheist ex-druggies I've talked to on here (and please let me know if I'm misremembering) have discussed addiction in terms of personal responsibility, freedom to choose, and discussion about the underlying cause of taking the drug to begin with, and all of the Christian ex-druggies treat the drug like it's a magically imbued source of evil...sort of the way hippies talk about non-organic food, or fundies treat Ouija boards.

Personal opinion: I find AA to be reprehensible in their values, but much as I acknowledge that some people need religion to remind them to be good the way parents must remind children, I realize some people need AA to function without their addiction. Perhaps it's the sense of community which church also provides. And then there's my ex-boyfriend's family. Failed church-goers and failed AA-attendees, many of them. Saturday night alcoholics...bible-thumping Sunday baptists - if they're not too hungover. Perhaps if someone had preached personal responsibility at them instead of Jesus, a few of them would be doing better.
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Why hate Athiest? - by frz - February 16, 2013 at 11:33 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by CapnAwesome - February 16, 2013 at 11:45 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Esquilax - February 16, 2013 at 11:49 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by PyroManiac - February 25, 2013 at 11:30 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Angrboda - February 25, 2013 at 11:49 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by The Magic Pudding - February 17, 2013 at 7:41 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Angrboda - February 16, 2013 at 11:54 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by CleanShavenJesus - February 16, 2013 at 1:52 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by CapnAwesome - February 16, 2013 at 2:40 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by CleanShavenJesus - February 16, 2013 at 3:30 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Something completely different - February 16, 2013 at 4:14 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by CleanShavenJesus - February 17, 2013 at 1:45 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by CapnAwesome - February 16, 2013 at 7:39 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by yobbyy - February 22, 2013 at 10:32 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Angrboda - February 22, 2013 at 10:36 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Dee Dee Ramone - February 16, 2013 at 4:01 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by My imaginary friend is GOD - February 16, 2013 at 4:03 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by iameatingjam - February 20, 2013 at 8:12 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Zone - February 16, 2013 at 4:21 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by dg-pilz-e - February 16, 2013 at 6:26 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Minimalist - February 16, 2013 at 8:10 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Neo-Scholastic - February 16, 2013 at 10:23 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by FallentoReason - February 16, 2013 at 10:31 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Mystical - February 17, 2013 at 12:47 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Finn - February 17, 2013 at 3:05 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Zen Badger - February 17, 2013 at 6:12 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by downbeatplumb - February 17, 2013 at 7:59 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by ThomM - February 17, 2013 at 8:34 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by paulpablo - February 20, 2013 at 8:22 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Neo-Scholastic - February 21, 2013 at 2:31 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by paulpablo - February 21, 2013 at 5:52 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by paulpablo - February 21, 2013 at 6:02 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by fr0d0 - February 20, 2013 at 8:57 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by The Grand Nudger - February 21, 2013 at 12:37 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by fr0d0 - February 21, 2013 at 1:08 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - February 21, 2013 at 2:40 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by LastPoet - February 21, 2013 at 6:01 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by The Magic Pudding - February 22, 2013 at 9:11 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by The Grand Nudger - February 24, 2013 at 1:17 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - February 24, 2013 at 7:27 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by mr.atheist - February 24, 2013 at 10:30 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by fr0d0 - February 25, 2013 at 12:08 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by WinterHold - February 25, 2013 at 11:59 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Neo-Scholastic - February 26, 2013 at 12:52 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Question Mark - February 26, 2013 at 12:57 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Esquilax - February 26, 2013 at 1:17 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by LastPoet - February 26, 2013 at 1:30 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Mister Agenda - March 15, 2013 at 10:53 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by The Grand Nudger - February 25, 2013 at 1:59 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by WinterHold - February 25, 2013 at 6:14 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Question Mark - February 25, 2013 at 6:54 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Angrboda - February 25, 2013 at 8:50 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by The Magic Pudding - February 26, 2013 at 1:32 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by downbeatplumb - February 26, 2013 at 2:23 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by jstrodel - March 2, 2013 at 6:16 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by pocaracas - March 2, 2013 at 7:23 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Question Mark - March 2, 2013 at 7:43 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by jstrodel - March 2, 2013 at 9:26 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Confused Ape - March 3, 2013 at 7:13 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by archangle - March 3, 2013 at 12:48 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by jstrodel - March 5, 2013 at 8:57 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Darkstar - March 5, 2013 at 9:51 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by jstrodel - March 5, 2013 at 11:38 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Esquilax - March 5, 2013 at 11:43 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by jstrodel - March 5, 2013 at 11:48 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Esquilax - March 6, 2013 at 12:03 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by jstrodel - March 7, 2013 at 1:25 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Darkstar - March 7, 2013 at 10:36 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Neo-Scholastic - March 9, 2013 at 10:21 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by jstrodel - March 10, 2013 at 1:50 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Angrboda - March 10, 2013 at 2:42 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Darkstar - March 5, 2013 at 11:52 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Mister Agenda - March 15, 2013 at 11:34 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Mister Agenda - March 15, 2013 at 11:22 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - March 2, 2013 at 6:32 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by archangle - March 2, 2013 at 7:33 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Question Mark - March 2, 2013 at 9:43 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Angrboda - March 2, 2013 at 11:32 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Mystical - March 3, 2013 at 1:25 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by xXUKAtheistForTheTruthXx - March 3, 2013 at 6:47 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by xXUKAtheistForTheTruthXx - March 3, 2013 at 3:00 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by archangle - March 3, 2013 at 4:03 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by xXUKAtheistForTheTruthXx - March 3, 2013 at 5:22 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Mystical - March 5, 2013 at 9:42 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by jstrodel - March 6, 2013 at 12:03 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Mystical - March 7, 2013 at 2:28 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Confused Ape - March 6, 2013 at 8:39 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by EGross - March 7, 2013 at 10:45 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Gonzalo697 - March 9, 2013 at 8:59 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Mystical - March 9, 2013 at 10:54 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Neo-Scholastic - March 10, 2013 at 12:44 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Gabriel Syme - March 10, 2013 at 10:49 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by justin - March 10, 2013 at 1:19 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by CleanShavenJesus - March 10, 2013 at 2:25 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by jstrodel - March 10, 2013 at 2:48 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by CleanShavenJesus - March 10, 2013 at 3:04 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Angrboda - March 10, 2013 at 3:58 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by jstrodel - March 10, 2013 at 3:06 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by jstrodel - March 10, 2013 at 9:38 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by CleanShavenJesus - March 10, 2013 at 9:45 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Angrboda - March 10, 2013 at 10:52 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by jstrodel - March 10, 2013 at 9:48 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by CleanShavenJesus - March 10, 2013 at 9:52 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by jstrodel - March 10, 2013 at 9:54 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by CleanShavenJesus - March 10, 2013 at 10:01 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by MysticKnight - March 10, 2013 at 10:01 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by jstrodel - March 10, 2013 at 11:01 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Angrboda - March 10, 2013 at 11:40 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by jstrodel - March 10, 2013 at 11:45 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Angrboda - March 11, 2013 at 2:31 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by jstrodel - March 11, 2013 at 11:47 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Mystical - March 12, 2013 at 10:27 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by jstrodel - March 12, 2013 at 11:09 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by thesummerqueen - March 12, 2013 at 11:30 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by JDS - March 12, 2013 at 11:47 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Angrboda - March 13, 2013 at 12:06 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by jstrodel - March 13, 2013 at 12:40 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Angrboda - March 13, 2013 at 1:08 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by jstrodel - March 13, 2013 at 10:03 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Angrboda - March 13, 2013 at 12:35 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by jstrodel - March 14, 2013 at 12:49 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Esquilax - March 14, 2013 at 2:46 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by jstrodel - March 14, 2013 at 10:15 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Darkstar - March 14, 2013 at 10:35 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by jstrodel - March 15, 2013 at 10:22 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Darkstar - March 15, 2013 at 3:17 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Mystical - March 14, 2013 at 10:37 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by jstrodel - March 15, 2013 at 10:33 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Nine - March 15, 2013 at 10:37 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Mystical - March 13, 2013 at 1:19 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by thesummerqueen - March 13, 2013 at 7:20 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Mystical - March 13, 2013 at 9:44 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by thesummerqueen - March 13, 2013 at 9:48 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by LastPoet - March 13, 2013 at 9:53 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by pocaracas - March 13, 2013 at 10:33 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by thesummerqueen - March 13, 2013 at 10:36 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Darkstar - March 13, 2013 at 10:48 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Confused Ape - March 13, 2013 at 11:43 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by thesummerqueen - March 13, 2013 at 12:42 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Confused Ape - March 13, 2013 at 12:44 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by thesummerqueen - March 15, 2013 at 8:34 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by jstrodel - March 15, 2013 at 10:50 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by thesummerqueen - March 15, 2013 at 10:25 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by thesummerqueen - March 15, 2013 at 10:58 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by jstrodel - March 15, 2013 at 11:08 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by thesummerqueen - March 15, 2013 at 11:14 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by thesummerqueen - March 15, 2013 at 11:32 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by jstrodel - March 15, 2013 at 3:28 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Darkstar - March 15, 2013 at 3:44 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Something completely different - March 15, 2013 at 3:47 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Something completely different - March 15, 2013 at 3:31 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by thesummerqueen - March 15, 2013 at 3:31 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by jstrodel - March 15, 2013 at 3:42 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Darkstar - March 15, 2013 at 3:50 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by jstrodel - March 15, 2013 at 3:48 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by thesummerqueen - March 15, 2013 at 3:52 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by jstrodel - March 15, 2013 at 3:54 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Angrboda - March 16, 2013 at 1:09 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Silver - March 16, 2013 at 1:16 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Angrboda - March 16, 2013 at 1:43 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by jstrodel - March 16, 2013 at 12:10 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Esquilax - March 16, 2013 at 12:47 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Mister Agenda - March 18, 2013 at 12:41 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by jstrodel - March 18, 2013 at 8:49 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by CapnAwesome - March 18, 2013 at 9:13 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by thesummerqueen - March 16, 2013 at 12:40 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by thesummerqueen - March 18, 2013 at 8:59 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Neo-Scholastic - March 19, 2013 at 7:54 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by jstrodel - March 18, 2013 at 9:02 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by CleanShavenJesus - March 18, 2013 at 9:19 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by thesummerqueen - March 18, 2013 at 9:05 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by jstrodel - March 18, 2013 at 9:54 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by CleanShavenJesus - March 19, 2013 at 4:21 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by jstrodel - March 19, 2013 at 9:45 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by CleanShavenJesus - March 20, 2013 at 4:45 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by The Grand Nudger - March 19, 2013 at 2:38 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Angrboda - March 19, 2013 at 8:10 pm

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