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Why hate Athiest?
RE: Why hate Athiest?
(March 5, 2013 at 8:57 pm)jstrodel Wrote:
(March 3, 2013 at 7:13 am)Confused Ape Wrote: golden rule

Atheism says there is no more reason to obey the golden rule than to obey it, changing it from a rule to something that one person considers to be a good opinion to have.

Where does atheism say that?

(March 2, 2013 at 6:16 pm)jstrodel Wrote: Atheists do not have the Golden Rule, atheists have the Golden Opinion. Of course no society in history has ever been run off of Golden Opinions, and the only atheist societies in history that have followed the utopian and naive dreams of a society ruled by good opinions have been the Communists, who, predictably, turned out to violate these utopian principles more than anyone else.

"Never impose on others what you would not choose for yourself." – Confucius

You know what Confucianism doesn't have? Gods. It's a humanistic moral philosophy from before the term 'humanism' was invented. From several hundred years before the term 'Christianity' was invented too, for that matter.

(March 6, 2013 at 12:03 am)jstrodel Wrote: I know plenty of atheists who are nice people.

So why do you keep saying such horrible things about atheists as a demographic? Would you say these things to the faces of your nice atheist friends?

(March 9, 2013 at 10:21 pm)ChadWooters Wrote:
(March 7, 2013 at 10:36 am)Darkstar Wrote: I don't think the Nazis represent Christianity at large, but they were largely Christian.
Dietrich Bonhoeffer refutes you.

The only thing that could refute the contention that the Nazis were largely Christian would be evidence that they were mostly non-Christian. I expect better from you, Chad.

(March 15, 2013 at 11:32 am)thesummerqueen Wrote: If I haven't said before, Mister Agenda, I might be in love with your brain.

Thanks so much, that's particularly flattering coming from you, my queen.

I suspect you wouldn't be able to be as honestly complementary about the rest of me, sadly.

Big Grin

(March 10, 2013 at 2:48 pm)jstrodel Wrote: Atheism is the easy way out. Atheism says make up your own view of ethics without any kind of rules or oversight and if you screw up, don't beat yourself up, no big deal. Some people may work hard at it, but the majority I have encountered don't.

Yes, figuring out what is right and wrong for yourself is so much easier than accepting an authority to tell you what is right and wrong.

(March 10, 2013 at 2:48 pm)jstrodel Wrote: I would be burned alive for what I believe.

Not by us. We think burning people alive for what they believe is wrong We can't point to a book with authority to dictate that, which I know in your eyes means we can't say burning you alive is wrong, but somehow, every atheist on this forum has figured out that it would be wrong to execute you...or even punch you...for what you believe.

(March 10, 2013 at 3:06 pm)jstrodel Wrote: How do you know how to relate the feeling of empathy to specific actions? How do you relate quantities of empathy to actions. Or by empathy do you just mean "I try and be a nice person and basically do whatever I want"

It's complex. I can't put a whole life time of experience in making moral judgements into a paragraph. But it's far more likely that 'try and be a nice person and treat others the way I would want to be treated if I was in their position' was meant than your version.
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Why hate Athiest? - by frz - February 16, 2013 at 11:33 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by CapnAwesome - February 16, 2013 at 11:45 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Esquilax - February 16, 2013 at 11:49 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by PyroManiac - February 25, 2013 at 11:30 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Angrboda - February 25, 2013 at 11:49 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by The Magic Pudding - February 17, 2013 at 7:41 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Angrboda - February 16, 2013 at 11:54 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by CleanShavenJesus - February 16, 2013 at 1:52 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by CapnAwesome - February 16, 2013 at 2:40 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by CleanShavenJesus - February 16, 2013 at 3:30 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Something completely different - February 16, 2013 at 4:14 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by CleanShavenJesus - February 17, 2013 at 1:45 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by CapnAwesome - February 16, 2013 at 7:39 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by yobbyy - February 22, 2013 at 10:32 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Angrboda - February 22, 2013 at 10:36 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Dee Dee Ramone - February 16, 2013 at 4:01 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by My imaginary friend is GOD - February 16, 2013 at 4:03 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by iameatingjam - February 20, 2013 at 8:12 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Zone - February 16, 2013 at 4:21 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by dg-pilz-e - February 16, 2013 at 6:26 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Minimalist - February 16, 2013 at 8:10 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Neo-Scholastic - February 16, 2013 at 10:23 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by FallentoReason - February 16, 2013 at 10:31 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Mystical - February 17, 2013 at 12:47 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Finn - February 17, 2013 at 3:05 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Zen Badger - February 17, 2013 at 6:12 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by downbeatplumb - February 17, 2013 at 7:59 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by ThomM - February 17, 2013 at 8:34 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by paulpablo - February 20, 2013 at 8:22 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Neo-Scholastic - February 21, 2013 at 2:31 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by paulpablo - February 21, 2013 at 5:52 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by paulpablo - February 21, 2013 at 6:02 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by fr0d0 - February 20, 2013 at 8:57 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by The Grand Nudger - February 21, 2013 at 12:37 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by fr0d0 - February 21, 2013 at 1:08 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - February 21, 2013 at 2:40 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by LastPoet - February 21, 2013 at 6:01 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by The Magic Pudding - February 22, 2013 at 9:11 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by The Grand Nudger - February 24, 2013 at 1:17 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - February 24, 2013 at 7:27 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by mr.atheist - February 24, 2013 at 10:30 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by fr0d0 - February 25, 2013 at 12:08 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by WinterHold - February 25, 2013 at 11:59 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Neo-Scholastic - February 26, 2013 at 12:52 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Question Mark - February 26, 2013 at 12:57 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Esquilax - February 26, 2013 at 1:17 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by LastPoet - February 26, 2013 at 1:30 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Mister Agenda - March 15, 2013 at 10:53 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by The Grand Nudger - February 25, 2013 at 1:59 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by WinterHold - February 25, 2013 at 6:14 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Question Mark - February 25, 2013 at 6:54 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Angrboda - February 25, 2013 at 8:50 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by The Magic Pudding - February 26, 2013 at 1:32 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by downbeatplumb - February 26, 2013 at 2:23 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by jstrodel - March 2, 2013 at 6:16 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by pocaracas - March 2, 2013 at 7:23 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Question Mark - March 2, 2013 at 7:43 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by jstrodel - March 2, 2013 at 9:26 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Confused Ape - March 3, 2013 at 7:13 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by archangle - March 3, 2013 at 12:48 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by jstrodel - March 5, 2013 at 8:57 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Darkstar - March 5, 2013 at 9:51 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by jstrodel - March 5, 2013 at 11:38 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Esquilax - March 5, 2013 at 11:43 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by jstrodel - March 5, 2013 at 11:48 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Esquilax - March 6, 2013 at 12:03 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by jstrodel - March 7, 2013 at 1:25 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Darkstar - March 7, 2013 at 10:36 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Neo-Scholastic - March 9, 2013 at 10:21 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by jstrodel - March 10, 2013 at 1:50 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Angrboda - March 10, 2013 at 2:42 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Darkstar - March 5, 2013 at 11:52 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Mister Agenda - March 15, 2013 at 11:34 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Mister Agenda - March 15, 2013 at 11:22 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - March 2, 2013 at 6:32 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by archangle - March 2, 2013 at 7:33 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Question Mark - March 2, 2013 at 9:43 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Angrboda - March 2, 2013 at 11:32 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Mystical - March 3, 2013 at 1:25 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by xXUKAtheistForTheTruthXx - March 3, 2013 at 6:47 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by xXUKAtheistForTheTruthXx - March 3, 2013 at 3:00 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by archangle - March 3, 2013 at 4:03 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by xXUKAtheistForTheTruthXx - March 3, 2013 at 5:22 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Mystical - March 5, 2013 at 9:42 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by jstrodel - March 6, 2013 at 12:03 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Mystical - March 7, 2013 at 2:28 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Confused Ape - March 6, 2013 at 8:39 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by EGross - March 7, 2013 at 10:45 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Gonzalo697 - March 9, 2013 at 8:59 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Mystical - March 9, 2013 at 10:54 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Neo-Scholastic - March 10, 2013 at 12:44 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Gabriel Syme - March 10, 2013 at 10:49 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by justin - March 10, 2013 at 1:19 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by CleanShavenJesus - March 10, 2013 at 2:25 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by jstrodel - March 10, 2013 at 2:48 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by CleanShavenJesus - March 10, 2013 at 3:04 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Angrboda - March 10, 2013 at 3:58 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by jstrodel - March 10, 2013 at 3:06 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by jstrodel - March 10, 2013 at 9:38 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by CleanShavenJesus - March 10, 2013 at 9:45 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Angrboda - March 10, 2013 at 10:52 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by jstrodel - March 10, 2013 at 9:48 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by CleanShavenJesus - March 10, 2013 at 9:52 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by jstrodel - March 10, 2013 at 9:54 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by CleanShavenJesus - March 10, 2013 at 10:01 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by MysticKnight - March 10, 2013 at 10:01 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by jstrodel - March 10, 2013 at 11:01 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Angrboda - March 10, 2013 at 11:40 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by jstrodel - March 10, 2013 at 11:45 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Angrboda - March 11, 2013 at 2:31 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by jstrodel - March 11, 2013 at 11:47 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Mystical - March 12, 2013 at 10:27 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by jstrodel - March 12, 2013 at 11:09 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by thesummerqueen - March 12, 2013 at 11:30 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by JDS - March 12, 2013 at 11:47 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Angrboda - March 13, 2013 at 12:06 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by jstrodel - March 13, 2013 at 12:40 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Angrboda - March 13, 2013 at 1:08 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by jstrodel - March 13, 2013 at 10:03 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Angrboda - March 13, 2013 at 12:35 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by jstrodel - March 14, 2013 at 12:49 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Esquilax - March 14, 2013 at 2:46 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by jstrodel - March 14, 2013 at 10:15 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Darkstar - March 14, 2013 at 10:35 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by jstrodel - March 15, 2013 at 10:22 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Darkstar - March 15, 2013 at 3:17 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Mystical - March 14, 2013 at 10:37 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by jstrodel - March 15, 2013 at 10:33 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Nine - March 15, 2013 at 10:37 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Mystical - March 13, 2013 at 1:19 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by thesummerqueen - March 13, 2013 at 7:20 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Mystical - March 13, 2013 at 9:44 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by thesummerqueen - March 13, 2013 at 9:48 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by LastPoet - March 13, 2013 at 9:53 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by pocaracas - March 13, 2013 at 10:33 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by thesummerqueen - March 13, 2013 at 10:36 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Darkstar - March 13, 2013 at 10:48 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Confused Ape - March 13, 2013 at 11:43 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by thesummerqueen - March 13, 2013 at 12:42 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Confused Ape - March 13, 2013 at 12:44 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by thesummerqueen - March 15, 2013 at 8:34 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by jstrodel - March 15, 2013 at 10:50 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by thesummerqueen - March 15, 2013 at 10:25 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by thesummerqueen - March 15, 2013 at 10:58 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by jstrodel - March 15, 2013 at 11:08 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by thesummerqueen - March 15, 2013 at 11:14 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by thesummerqueen - March 15, 2013 at 11:32 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by jstrodel - March 15, 2013 at 3:28 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Darkstar - March 15, 2013 at 3:44 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Something completely different - March 15, 2013 at 3:47 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Something completely different - March 15, 2013 at 3:31 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by thesummerqueen - March 15, 2013 at 3:31 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by jstrodel - March 15, 2013 at 3:42 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Darkstar - March 15, 2013 at 3:50 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by jstrodel - March 15, 2013 at 3:48 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by thesummerqueen - March 15, 2013 at 3:52 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by jstrodel - March 15, 2013 at 3:54 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Angrboda - March 16, 2013 at 1:09 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Silver - March 16, 2013 at 1:16 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Angrboda - March 16, 2013 at 1:43 am
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by jstrodel - March 16, 2013 at 12:10 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Esquilax - March 16, 2013 at 12:47 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Mister Agenda - March 18, 2013 at 12:41 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by jstrodel - March 18, 2013 at 8:49 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by CapnAwesome - March 18, 2013 at 9:13 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by thesummerqueen - March 16, 2013 at 12:40 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by thesummerqueen - March 18, 2013 at 8:59 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Neo-Scholastic - March 19, 2013 at 7:54 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by jstrodel - March 18, 2013 at 9:02 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by CleanShavenJesus - March 18, 2013 at 9:19 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by thesummerqueen - March 18, 2013 at 9:05 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by jstrodel - March 18, 2013 at 9:54 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by CleanShavenJesus - March 19, 2013 at 4:21 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by jstrodel - March 19, 2013 at 9:45 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by CleanShavenJesus - March 20, 2013 at 4:45 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by The Grand Nudger - March 19, 2013 at 2:38 pm
RE: Why hate Athiest? - by Angrboda - March 19, 2013 at 8:10 pm

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