(March 14, 2013 at 1:50 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote:(March 14, 2013 at 1:44 pm)little_monkey Wrote: It leaves the whole question wide open for theists to twart it in such ways to support their own position.
What makes you think they won't do that anyways?
Take the case with Kauss' arguments in "A Universe From Nothing". It leaves the door wide open for: 1) how do you know that the energy of the universe is exactly zero? Where's the evidence? 2) No one has ever observed a universe “popping” into existence. How would the universe do that? Then you need to come up with hyper-laws, laws that exist before the universe existed, and how would you account for that?
You can see there is a whole can of worms with Krauss and those who claim the universe popped out of existence from "nothing". OTOH, stating the universe was never a singularity forces everyone to think in a different direction.
