(March 19, 2013 at 4:01 pm)Drew_2013 Wrote: I'll let any reasonable person decide if the universe is the result of plan and design or the result of mindless forces that didn't plan or intend the result. If you want to argue some other possibility then site your evidence and make your case.
We are reasonable people (almost by definition) and we have concluded, through reason and evidence, that the universe appears to be a result of, as you put it, "mindless forces". I don't understand why you are having such difficulty in understanding that.
There are very strong SCIENTIFIC theorems and mathematical models that support our position. Our position is the one REASONABLE people accept.
On the other hand, your position is supported by baseless assertions and wishful thinking. Your position is the one accepted by religious rubes who are desperately searching for a way to justify their ridiculous fairy tale beliefs.
And that's Jenga.
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." -Einstein