(March 21, 2013 at 12:52 am)EGross Wrote: If you take it from a point of fact, the holy books tell us that God loved being the center of attention. You pissed off a prophet, and he would open up the ground and swallow you and your followers whole. You questioned his word and a magic plague would show up, requiring magical intervention. You tried to kill his people and he turned your water into blood. You got lost, pillers of cloud or fire. You kill his son, zombies march on Jerusalem. The list goes on and on.
Ok, granted, nobody saw any of that, for real, but that's what those magic books tell us. And then some have the chutzpah to say "Well, he doesn't like to be the center of attention anymore". What, he got sullen? You say he got pissed off and won't talk anymore because some of his best friends got killed? What, is he bi-polar? You say he talks to grandmothers. What, are those old ladies hearing voices? Or, are they just imagining shit?
That's the problem with believing in those books - the stuff they talk about, well, God got whiney and left. Planes flying into buildings? God was eating popcorn and having the time of his life. After all, those were very religious people. Suicide bombing daily in the middle east, which used to be his home address. Why those are just silly comedies to him! Public blasphemies? Nah, not worth it.
In fact, He stopped being Mr. "Hey, look at what I can do" once people started evolving into rational thinkers.
Imaging that!
I am merely arguing that a rational God has no reason to speak to or help any but those who humbly come to him for help, admitting they are part of a race that generally ignores him, including 90% of those calling themselves Christians. I can make a good argument that only a small fraction of the world has ever even tried Christianity. I.e, what person has ever lived as the Sermon on the Mount says we must? If none, then who has any right to complain? Jesus promised to make things right one day. It is fair to assume that if he does, your arguments will look like impatient, foolish rants, will they not?
But in fact he did enlighten and help the world, including yourself, through men like John Locke, Charles Wesley who geleaned their wisdom and benevolence from Jesus, as did Jefferson, by his own assertion.
If anybody is whining or self-absorbed, it's those who didn't do anything God said, then bitch because he let something bad happen. They further don't even admit to the fact that Jesus (if not the church) had a powerful influence in creating the Democratic spirit. (Read Nancey Ruttenberg, on George Whitefield) It's absurd.
