RE: Science and religion
March 24, 2013 at 2:27 pm
(This post was last modified: March 24, 2013 at 2:58 pm by pocaracas.)
(March 24, 2013 at 2:10 pm)jstrodel Wrote:define "evil".Quote:Yes.
Go ask that to a starving person and see how they look at you.
A spiritually mature person would prefer to starve rather than to do something seriously evil.
(March 24, 2013 at 2:10 pm)jstrodel Wrote:I don't know what is more valuable to me, but I'd say my own life is way up there among the most valuable things.Quote:No, but it takes a lot for me to consider something " the most important question in life".
What makes it impossible for you to accept that being a good person is more valuable than other things. Does this reflect on your character?
What does that say about my character? you're the philosopher, not me...
(March 24, 2013 at 2:10 pm)jstrodel Wrote:I think you're projecting... I've never read anything by Hitchens nor Russel.Quote:And why must you be here answering my questions, instead of whatever god that exists and has the power to do so in a much more satisfying way than you could ever aspire to?
Because you won't seek God on his own terms but would prefer to read a book by an atheist who is an drunk like Christopher Hitchens or a womanizer like Bertrand Russel and accept the opinions of carnal men who do not know God's ideas about God instead of seeking God in sanctification and holiness.
I'll tell you how I'd seek this god of yours. I won't.
Assume I'm apart from the rest of the civilized world, and have no contact with anyone who could provide me with the concept of god.
Knowing evolution to be a fairly accurate representation of the way human life came to be on this planet (considering life came to be on the planet, somehow, and moving from there... say you start at 65 million years ago, right after all the dinos died off), at some point, early humans had no notion of any god. I expect to acquire knowledge of its existence the same way those people did all those years ago.
I will never accept other people's accounts, for they can, and most likely are, false (even if unknowingly).
(March 24, 2013 at 2:10 pm)jstrodel Wrote:If you know, then why don't I?Quote:Why are people always presuming to talk for this ultimate being?
Why do you claim to know what it thinks?
Why do you claim to know what would happen if it did show itself?
If it has never showed itself, how would you know about it?
Not presuming. I know because God has revealed it to me. It has shown itself. Either I am lying or I am crazy or I am telling the truth.
I promise you that I am telling the truth. God is real. I know that God is real.
Why doesn't it provide everyone with the same knowledge?...
(what about different religions...) why does it provide this knowledge in different ways so as to produce conflicts among the people?
Or are there several gods, each messing with a section of the population?
Or is there none and they're all the products of the very real "human imagination"?
I wouldn't call you crazy, but then again, I don't know you, besides all the things you write on here... I'd call you deluded, at least.