The Case for Theism

[Drew_2013]

One wonders why something as mundane as atheism requires apologetics at all? I don't think you understand what that word means.

Apologetics or atheism? I know what they mean if we use the dictionary as a source but I have often noted atheists reserve the right to interpret the meaning of a word to suit themselves.

Whether or not atheists are arrogant is irrelevant to why you have failed to make your case. You won't make the case for theism by proving atheism wrong (nor will the arrogance of another make that case for you) ........help me help you, what about this is difficult to understand?

It's your own arrogance that comes back to bite you in the ass. The fact you think it means something to me when you say I have failed to make a case is an example. You can't get the concept out of your head that I don't care what your opinion is and I expect you and your ilk not to be persuaded. Does it mean anything to you that in my opinion you've failed to make your case or failed to give me any reason to reject my belief and adopt yours? In my opinion my belief has more facts and data in support of it..but that doesn't mean anything to you does it? Do you think if two lawyers are trying a case that they only win the case if they persuade their opponent as to the merits of their case?

The other nuance about arrogance is the fact in the case of atheism...there's no basis to be arrogant. Its not like you have an overwhelming rock solid powerful case to be proud of, most of you won't even attempt to make a case, in your arrogance you seem to think that you can merely criticize (typically with theories the atheist himself doesn't believe in) the case in favor of theism and that alone will lead people to believe that our existence is due to mindless forces that blindly stumbled upon the incredibly complex formula to create the universe and something unlike itself, sentient life. Atheists are their own worst enemies in that regard.

Because it does, you've claimed that there's a superfairy at the bottom of all the turtles. Now get to work.

This is a classic example of the arrogance and rhetoric in action. I'm sure it makes a splash among fellow atheists totally committed to your point of view but does it persaude anyone else?

The best you could hope for is someone concluding that neither party has presented a compelling case. Which is what I was talking about when I mentioned that you were arguing uphill.

In a civil case a mere preponderance of evidence is all that is required, but here's your arrogance rearing its ugly head again. How do you figure I have an uphill battle when the majority of people believe a Creator is responsible for our existence? It is an uphill battle among born again dyed in the wool atheists but for people not committed to either point of view the 5 facts I have laid out to make my case are (IMHO) persuasive. Certainly in contrast to the anemic case you make but in your arrogance you don't think you even need to make a case.

I have already been going at this for 25 pages and have made my case from 5 lines of evidence. Your coming late to the party. Some of my other adversaries have apparently bailed from this debate, that's fine, if you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen. At this point I am working on my 'closing argument' then I will wrap things up and you guys can go back to reassuring each other there's no evidence in favor of theism.

More accurately, you have -failed- to make your case after 25 pages....now you're hoping that I'll leave, or implying that somehow, by virtue of being the last man standing you will have established something? LOL, you're gonna have to try a little harder.

You just can't extract it from your mind that your opinion I have failed to make my case means nothing to me. Try to reverse polarity and realize it means nothing to you if I opine that you have failed to make (or even bother to present) a counter case. Then a light might go on in your brain that has been cauterized by atheist think.

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We can only point out the flaws in your arguments so many times before the head-banging-into-wall option becomes more attractive.

Bang away...