(April 4, 2013 at 10:57 am)jstrodel Wrote: Science is based on experience.Evidence, strodel, evidence, and a whole host of other things as well...in part to remove one's individual experience from the equation - because we have found it to be consistently faulty.
Quote:So is religion. Skeptics will insist that it is a requirement to have an experience of science,evidence, that's what skeptics insist upon, evidence. I understand that you're allergic to the word.
Quote:but experience of religion is impossible, so it does not need to be sought out. They will admit that it is not possible to prove that religious experience is impossibleDepends on the experience, actually. Plenty of experiences are just flat out impossible, and I'm okay with stating it bluntly. No one was transported to the planet gleegork 40k light years away to speak with some galactic overlord about the keys to unlock the cosmos - for example.
Quote: but they will invoke probabilistic arguments to prove that they don't need to spend the energy or deny themselves to find out if it is true.Perhaps you should reword this so that it forms a coherent thought?
They will insist that religious believes need to have the collective experience and interpretation of modern science, but will not place that obligation upon themselves.
Quote:How does Occam's razor deal with the belief or half belief that "all experience is explainable by science in the twentieth century" which could perhaps be understood to link explanation of the origin of the universe in very complicated guesswork.Who believes that?
Quote:Why should people accept that it is acceptable to have no explanation at all? That doesn't seem like a simple or straightforward explanation, and it would be one that Occam would have rejected.Who accepts that? Certainly not the people who spend their lives looking for explanations - you know - scientists. I certainly don't feel that it;s acceptable to lack an explanation for something, but I don't have any aversion to being honest about what explanations we have. Some people can't help themselves though - habitually lying for their fairies. It's insulting.
Quote:Necessarily, there is a right way to live that comes from a God who created life and gave it that character or there is no right way to live and there is no creator who gave life that character.Necessarrily? LOL, get to work demonstrating this, bring your god over here so we can have a look, show that life was "created" or that any character was "given"? I don't seem to have any trouble finding "the right way to live" in the absence of your fantasies.
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