(April 4, 2013 at 6:06 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: So I'm supposed to waste 18 minutes of my life watching derivative videos just because you're too lazy to put things in your own words.
Hah. Yikes. I'm too lazy to write it. You're too lazy to listen to it. One of those requires much less effort, but still it's apparently much too much to ask. You're just not curious enough to challenge your dogmas. Not many people are, and I didn't expect you would be. But I thought I'd offer it up, just in case.
Kind of weird though, to argue about a topic and not be willing to look at evidence put forth on the matter. Guess I can make a note that you're part of the stubborn "sky is green" crowd. Come to think of it, I'm glad I didn't write down 18 minutes of accessible video to try and support my case.
Concerning the founders, it's a bit of a moot discussion to ponder their thoughts on the matter. Starting with the obvious, they're dead and their opinions not presented/published in their lifetime will never be known, so why bother projecting? Additionally, they justified slavery (and many owned some themselves) and giving black people 3/5 a vote. Assuming you could know their thoughts, they're still humans, and fallible. I may as well stroll into a frat house and ask their opinion on morality. Or better yet (obvious dig), the Bible.
Religious but open minded about the arguments of atheists? You may have spent your whole life learning about the arguments for religion. May I present to you 10 segmented hours for the case against it?