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How to tell a real freethinker
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RE: How to tell a real freethinker
(April 9, 2013 at 5:12 pm)jstrodel Wrote: Darkstar when I write about my experiences of God, I am not stretching myself to make some sort of argument, I am expressing clearly what has happened to me in a simple format of reporting on what happened.

This is totally different from the way that atheists talk about science, which are models of reality which is inherently different and does not absolutely track science. Atheists never acknowledge this about science, they talk about it like it is a law.
So are you telling me that you are infallible? That your experiences could not possibly have been hallucinations? Science is the reason that we are even able to discuss this on a forum. Miracles, on the other hand, have a very poor track record. None have ever been proven and a number have been decisively disproven. Science isn't always right, but religion almost never is.

(April 9, 2013 at 5:12 pm)jstrodel Wrote: Why are you an anti-theist? How do you know God exists well enough to know you should oppose God,
What? I'm an atheist. I'm not "anti-god", I'm anti-theism.
(April 9, 2013 at 5:12 pm)jstrodel Wrote: even if it means it will prevent others from knowing God if God may exist?
FSM may also exist. People can look for god if they want, but if they find him, they should be able to verify it if they expect me to believe them. It isn't as though everyone who seeks god (as a believer, even) finds any evidence for him. The James Randi Foundation's one million dollar prize for proof of the supernatural remains unclaimed...

(April 9, 2013 at 5:12 pm)jstrodel Wrote: Atheists are incapable of being honest because they are so used to treating probabilistic science as absolute truth that it is wired into their brains, they think in these terms, they demand answers conform to models that cannot give absolutes, they have wired themselves in such a way as to make themselves dependent not on science but on the quasi-religious belief of naturalism.
FSM. He's merely unlikely. You can't prove he doesn't exist. So why not believe in him? Because he's extremely unlikely. Are you an is anything other than revelation of any value to you? Would a 99% chance naturalistic and a 1% chance god scenario still lead you to conclude go because of the 1%?
(April 9, 2013 at 5:12 pm)jstrodel Wrote: They will never accept this, but there whole worldview will grab a hold of science and demand absolute adherence to their interpretation of science, called naturalism, which they demand be accepted as science.

The atheist, indeed is incapable of being honest. His entire worldview is based on a misunderstanding, thinking that the philosophy of naturalism is the same as scientific evidence and is subject to the same standards of verification. Obviously. it is not.
The theist, indeed is incapable of being honest. His entire worldview is based on a misunderstanding, thinking that the "philosophy" of theology is the same as scientific evidence.
John Adams Wrote:The Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion.
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How to tell a real freethinker - by radorth - March 20, 2013 at 11:06 pm
RE: How to tell a real freethinker - by Minimalist - March 20, 2013 at 11:23 pm
RE: How to tell a real freethinker - by Silver - March 20, 2013 at 11:31 pm
RE: How to tell a real freethinker - by Esquilax - March 21, 2013 at 12:06 am
RE: How to tell a real freethinker - by radorth - March 21, 2013 at 12:38 am
RE: How to tell a real freethinker - by EGross - March 21, 2013 at 12:52 am
RE: How to tell a real freethinker - by radorth - March 21, 2013 at 1:22 am
RE: How to tell a real freethinker - by Esquilax - March 21, 2013 at 1:29 am
RE: How to tell a real freethinker - by radorth - March 21, 2013 at 1:44 am
RE: How to tell a real freethinker - by Silver - March 21, 2013 at 1:51 am
RE: How to tell a real freethinker - by Esquilax - March 21, 2013 at 3:58 am
RE: How to tell a real freethinker - by Esquilax - March 21, 2013 at 1:13 am
RE: How to tell a real freethinker - by radorth - March 21, 2013 at 1:58 am
RE: How to tell a real freethinker - by CleanShavenJesus - April 7, 2013 at 12:10 pm
RE: How to tell a real freethinker - by Angrboda - March 21, 2013 at 12:37 am
RE: How to tell a real freethinker - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - March 21, 2013 at 2:01 am
RE: How to tell a real freethinker - by Ryantology - March 21, 2013 at 2:05 am
RE: How to tell a real freethinker - by Kayenneh - March 21, 2013 at 3:04 am
RE: How to tell a real freethinker - by Angrboda - March 21, 2013 at 7:59 am
RE: How to tell a real freethinker - by Tonus - March 21, 2013 at 9:52 am
Re: RE: How to tell a real freethinker - by frz - March 21, 2013 at 10:08 am
RE: How to tell a real freethinker - by radorth - March 21, 2013 at 8:18 pm
RE: How to tell a real freethinker - by Esquilax - March 22, 2013 at 3:00 am
RE: How to tell a real freethinker - by radorth - March 24, 2013 at 10:08 pm
RE: How to tell a real freethinker - by Esquilax - March 25, 2013 at 3:51 am
RE: How to tell a real freethinker - by radorth - April 2, 2013 at 10:43 am
RE: How to tell a real freethinker - by Esquilax - April 3, 2013 at 4:48 am
RE: How to tell a real freethinker - by radorth - April 4, 2013 at 1:08 am
RE: How to tell a real freethinker - by Esquilax - April 4, 2013 at 2:04 am
RE: How to tell a real freethinker - by Neo-Scholastic - April 4, 2013 at 10:41 pm
RE: How to tell a real freethinker - by Esquilax - April 5, 2013 at 2:25 am
RE: How to tell a real freethinker - by Neo-Scholastic - April 5, 2013 at 11:21 am
RE: How to tell a real freethinker - by Mister Agenda - April 5, 2013 at 11:37 am
RE: How to tell a real freethinker - by radorth - April 5, 2013 at 8:27 pm
RE: How to tell a real freethinker - by Esquilax - April 6, 2013 at 11:44 pm
RE: How to tell a real freethinker - by Violet - March 23, 2013 at 12:06 am
RE: How to tell a real freethinker - by Minimalist - March 23, 2013 at 12:25 am
RE: How to tell a real freethinker - by The Grand Nudger - April 2, 2013 at 10:52 am
RE: How to tell a real freethinker - by The Grand Nudger - April 4, 2013 at 10:47 pm
RE: How to tell a real freethinker - by Neo-Scholastic - April 4, 2013 at 11:07 pm
RE: How to tell a real freethinker - by Tonus - April 5, 2013 at 5:29 am
RE: How to tell a real freethinker - by The Grand Nudger - April 4, 2013 at 11:10 pm
RE: How to tell a real freethinker - by Ryantology - April 5, 2013 at 8:30 pm
RE: How to tell a real freethinker - by Zen Badger - April 7, 2013 at 8:34 am
RE: How to tell a real freethinker - by jstrodel - April 7, 2013 at 9:08 pm
RE: How to tell a real freethinker - by Darkstar - April 7, 2013 at 9:10 pm
RE: How to tell a real freethinker - by Zen Badger - April 8, 2013 at 5:21 am
RE: How to tell a real freethinker - by KichigaiNeko - April 8, 2013 at 12:10 am
RE: How to tell a real freethinker - by KichigaiNeko - April 8, 2013 at 5:23 am
RE: How to tell a real freethinker - by jstrodel - April 9, 2013 at 4:33 pm
RE: How to tell a real freethinker - by Darkstar - April 9, 2013 at 5:09 pm
RE: How to tell a real freethinker - by jstrodel - April 9, 2013 at 5:12 pm
RE: How to tell a real freethinker - by Darkstar - April 9, 2013 at 5:22 pm
RE: How to tell a real freethinker - by jstrodel - April 9, 2013 at 6:10 pm
RE: How to tell a real freethinker - by Baalzebutt - April 9, 2013 at 6:31 pm
RE: How to tell a real freethinker - by Ryantology - April 9, 2013 at 6:43 pm
RE: How to tell a real freethinker - by Darkstar - April 9, 2013 at 7:00 pm
RE: How to tell a real freethinker - by Undeceived - April 9, 2013 at 7:12 pm
RE: How to tell a real freethinker - by Ryantology - April 9, 2013 at 7:29 pm
RE: How to tell a real freethinker - by Darkstar - April 9, 2013 at 7:40 pm
RE: How to tell a real freethinker - by Esquilax - April 10, 2013 at 3:10 am
RE: How to tell a real freethinker - by Angrboda - April 10, 2013 at 2:23 pm
RE: How to tell a real freethinker - by radorth - April 11, 2013 at 8:51 pm
RE: How to tell a real freethinker - by radorth - April 13, 2013 at 1:07 am
RE: How to tell a real freethinker - by Justtristo - April 13, 2013 at 5:10 am
RE: How to tell a real freethinker - by Gilgamesh - April 13, 2013 at 6:21 am
RE: How to tell a real freethinker - by jstrodel - April 30, 2013 at 4:03 pm
RE: How to tell a real freethinker - by Darkstar - April 30, 2013 at 4:26 pm
RE: How to tell a real freethinker - by Ryantology - April 30, 2013 at 4:37 pm
RE: How to tell a real freethinker - by Esquilax - May 1, 2013 at 2:41 am
RE: How to tell a real freethinker - by Dragonetti - May 1, 2013 at 2:46 am
RE: How to tell a real freethinker - by KichigaiNeko - May 1, 2013 at 9:38 am

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