What Sacrifice ?

[Cinjin]

I would also call bullshit if "...now a sacrifice is merely lowering yourself to hang out with your own creations", "...he was never really human...", and if "Jesus lost NOTHING. He gave NOTHING". But, these are all false. The sacrifice included "lowering", but that isn't enough. Actually, dying isn't enough either. It's the extra suffering applied by the Father for our sakes that seals the deal. He was actually human, with all of our inclinations, desires, and whatnot. If he wasn't he didn't make up for our sins. He needs to literally be one of us to redeem us. Finally, he did have suffering, and this redeems us.

Ok we're clear now. There's a sacrifice simply because you say there is. Despite the clear fact that the qualifications necessary to consider it a sacrifice are non-existent. Neither the dictionary nor your god would consider this a sacrifice anywhere else in the Bible, but yet somehow because YOU say it is, it certainly must be. Whatever. Jesus sacrificed nothing. Not his life, not his deity, not a son or daughter, no property taken from him ..... only some mild discomfort at best as not even a single bone was broken, yet somehow this is a "sacrifice" even though it fails to meet any of the criteria.

I've never even read of jesus crying out in pain during the whole alleged ordeal - which means that you can't prove to me that he even suffered at all that day.

My point was that jesus likely did not endure any significant physical pain on the day of his alleged sacrifice. *

This one is more evident in scriptures than most.

Luke 19:41
And when he drew near and saw the city, he wept over it... * Invalid, NOT physical pain.

John 11:34-36
And he said, “Where have you laid him (Lazarus, friend of Jesus, recently died)?” They said to him, “Lord, come and see.” Jesus wept. So the Jews said, “See how he loved him!” * Invalid, NOT physical pain.

And then the big one, Matthew 27:46
And about the ninth hour Jesus cried out with a loud voice, saying, “Eli, Eli, lema sabachthani?” that is, “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?” * Invalid, NOT physical pain.

The last one is on the cross, quoting Psalm 22:1. This is his greatest cry of anguish. * Invalid, NOT physical pain and the author of Psalms was not dying on the cross at the time.

A couple of those are taken way out of context. Is that how you like to win arguments? Use your own Bible out of context? Pathetic.