Is Easter based on a pagan tradition?

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Jewish people is essentially a 19th c. Zionist invention.

I think you just flushed any point of credibility that you migh have had down the toilet. I understand your dilemma, based on your mission, to create a fantasy to justify your feelings, your anger, but one needs to be rational when speaking of recorded history. Zionism is not Judaism, and you are confusing the two.

You need to start using a different browser. You missed the part where I cited the book by a JEWISH, ISRAELI, PROFESSOR of HISTORY at Tel Aviv University.

The Invention of the Jewish People [Paperback] Shlomo Sand (Author), Yael Lotan (Translator) http://www.amazon.com/Invention-Jewish-P...ish+people

If there is an issue credibility you need to start with him. All you can get me on is gullibility for believing a jewish, israeli professor of history.

However in his follow up book

The Invention of the Land of Israel: From Holy Land to Homeland [Hardcover] Shlomo Sand (Author), Geremy Forman (Translator)

he makes a very strong case that zionism has replaced Judaism as it is the only central feature that unites almost all people who claim to be Jews, religious and atheist alike.

But if you can find ANY mention of a "jewish people" independent of religion prior to the 1800s you should first communicate it to the professor before you post it here.

And please define people in such manner it is possible to join and unjoin solely by religious ceremony. The professor does discuss that in the Ashkenazi who are Jews only by religious conversion unrelated to ancestral origin in Palestine.

A Jewish people, or race, being only thought of in the 19th century?

Let's just go back one more century. Queen Maria Theresa of Austria of the 18th century expelled the Jewish race from her country, saying

"I know of no greater plague than this race, which on account of its deceit, usury and avarice is driving my subjects into beggary.”

I could keep going back in time. But one should be enough. I know you hate Zionists, but that should not get in the way of writing accurately.

Please keep going back the the idea of race was thoroughly discredited as a consequence of WWII. It cannot be replaced by "people" to the same effect. I suggest you catch up with the times or at least the latter half of the 20th c.

As for using the queen as an authority in this matter you will need to demonstrate from the actual expulsion order that it included all who had converted to Christianity or whose ancestors had converted to Christianity. If you cannot show that then HER term race and religion are interchangeable and have the same meaning in practice. Care to do the research?

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I don't have your forebearance,EG.

Apparently, Ferdinand and Isabella didn't know who they were expelling in the Alhambra Decree?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alhambra_Decree#Decree

The Alhambra Decree (also known as the Edict of Expulsion) was an edict issued on 31 March 1492 by the joint Catholic Monarchs of Spain (Isabella I of Castile and Ferdinand II of Aragon) ordering the expulsion of Jews from the Kingdoms of Castile and Aragon (not from the Kingdom of Navarre) and its territories and possessions by 31 July of that year.[1]

Most obviously there was no mention of race so what is the point of the citation from the high school lever wikipedia? That is contains such misleading material is why it is only high school level.

The more complete story is the Jews and Muslims who converted to Christianity were permitted to stay. Thus it was purely religion that determined who could stay or had to go.

Next the Inquisition blamed for persecuting Jews was to deal with FALSE conversions to Christianity, those who still practiced Islam and Judaism.

That is no secret. It is never wise to trust wikipedia whose authors are anonymous, of unknown character and of unknown motivation. Please. The same rules that apply to gospel authenticity apply to wikipedia as well on top of the fact it is for an audience below voting age.