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proofs of existence of God,
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RE: proofs of existence of God,
Ok, since I'm in a bit of a debating mood. I'll have a small pick at it.

Quote:4 - You do not see the magnetic force, but you see its effects, and we did not see God, but we see
effects and signs which proved the existence of him

Ok, this is one of those, "you see the effects but not the cause" thing.
Don't bother trying it mate. The magnetic force is already detected and explained by the laws of physics. God is not. There is no way to detect god in anyway. Now this planet had formed not created.

I think some of you guys already know this, but on board the space station, one of the astronauts had a bag of salt. When he shook it and then stopped, the salt starting forming. This pretty much answered the question of how the earth formed. Just in a far smaller scale but was in the right conditions (No gravity). So if you think it's impossible for planets to just form, well your wrong. The sun is there, the elements are there, the energy is there and so formation would happen. Science has already explained it through theory and tests. All you got is "goddidit".

So case closed on this one. When you say you can see the effects and that, it doesn't automatically mean that god did it. God is just a fragmentation of your over active imagination. The "god" element is a totally knew thing which arrived from your mind.
When someone said, darkness is without light, there correct. Then they add without god is evil, which is a totally knew element that came straight from the human mind. We see the effects, it's just we have our own perception of it's cause. You see the cause as "god did it". I see the cause as a natural event. It's all down to physics not superstitions.
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Quote:5 - What you lead you to atheism? is not it the teachings of the church which contradict with mind
and science, and which shows the ignorance of priests? Why do not tend to the religion of Allah, to Islam.

Pure and simple, lack of evidence. Stories and claims will on cause me to turn. I need evidence. Science makes far more sense than religion.

As an atheist, I've found it easy to debunk theistic claims/beliefs. As a theist, it would mean allot of evasion and ending the debate because I'd have no answer to the question.

I'm a strong atheist, who walks hand in hand with science and reason. I need evidence of your claims, your god and yet I have none. You have not proven the existence of god. God is just a hypothesis, it is just a view that has no evidence.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence - Carl Sagan

Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity.

Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist.

You never really know just how stupid someone is, until you've argued with them.
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proofs of existence of God, - by moslem - November 24, 2008 at 6:10 am
RE: proofs of existence of God, - by leo-rcc - November 24, 2008 at 8:49 am
RE: proofs of existence of God, - by Ace Otana - November 24, 2008 at 10:32 am
RE: proofs of existence of God, - by allan175 - November 24, 2008 at 10:32 am
RE: proofs of existence of God, - by Ace Otana - November 24, 2008 at 11:24 am
RE: proofs of existence of God, - by Tiberius - November 24, 2008 at 1:31 pm
RE: proofs of existence of God, - by Edwardo Piet - November 25, 2008 at 11:16 pm
RE: proofs of existence of God, - by Jason Jarred - November 26, 2008 at 12:11 am
RE: proofs of existence of God, - by lukec - November 26, 2008 at 2:28 am
RE: proofs of existence of God, - by Kyuuketsuki - November 26, 2008 at 4:39 am
RE: proofs of existence of God, - by moslem - December 17, 2008 at 3:09 am
RE: proofs of existence of God, - by lukec - December 17, 2008 at 4:51 am
RE: proofs of existence of God, - by moslem - December 18, 2008 at 4:03 am
RE: proofs of existence of God, - by leo-rcc - December 17, 2008 at 4:55 am
RE: proofs of existence of God, - by Rob - December 17, 2008 at 10:11 am
RE: proofs of existence of God, - by Eilonnwy - December 17, 2008 at 6:31 pm
RE: proofs of existence of God, - by AtheistPhil - December 17, 2008 at 8:08 pm
RE: proofs of existence of God, - by Eilonnwy - December 17, 2008 at 10:14 pm
RE: proofs of existence of God, - by Edwardo Piet - December 17, 2008 at 10:31 pm
RE: proofs of existence of God, - by lukec - December 18, 2008 at 5:25 am
RE: proofs of existence of God, - by moslem - December 21, 2008 at 8:36 am
RE: proofs of existence of God, - by allan175 - December 18, 2008 at 5:29 am
RE: proofs of existence of God, - by lukec - December 21, 2008 at 8:37 am
RE: proofs of existence of God, - by Purple Rabbit - December 21, 2008 at 8:40 am
RE: proofs of existence of God, - by Edwardo Piet - December 21, 2008 at 8:54 am
RE: proofs of existence of God, - by moslem - December 21, 2008 at 9:33 am
RE: proofs of existence of God, - by LukeMC - December 21, 2008 at 9:35 am
RE: proofs of existence of God, - by leo-rcc - December 21, 2008 at 9:52 am
RE: proofs of existence of God, - by Kyuuketsuki - December 23, 2008 at 7:20 am
RE: proofs of existence of God, - by leo-rcc - December 23, 2008 at 8:22 am
RE: proofs of existence of God, - by Tiberius - December 21, 2008 at 10:01 am
RE: proofs of existence of God, - by josef rosenkranz - December 21, 2008 at 3:27 pm
RE: proofs of existence of God, - by lilphil1989 - December 23, 2008 at 5:49 am
RE: proofs of existence of God, - by josef rosenkranz - December 23, 2008 at 2:00 pm
RE: proofs of existence of God, - by lilphil1989 - December 23, 2008 at 5:32 pm
RE: proofs of existence of God, - by leo-rcc - December 23, 2008 at 6:20 pm
RE: proofs of existence of God, - by lilphil1989 - December 23, 2008 at 6:31 pm
RE: proofs of existence of God, - by leo-rcc - December 23, 2008 at 6:32 pm
RE: proofs of existence of God, - by lilphil1989 - December 23, 2008 at 7:02 pm
RE: proofs of existence of God, - by leo-rcc - December 23, 2008 at 7:19 pm
RE: proofs of existence of God, - by Purple Rabbit - December 24, 2008 at 8:23 am
RE: proofs of existence of God, - by lilphil1989 - December 24, 2008 at 9:10 am
RE: proofs of existence of God, - by leo-rcc - December 24, 2008 at 9:20 am
RE: proofs of existence of God, - by josef rosenkranz - December 27, 2008 at 1:07 pm
RE: proofs of existence of God, - by moslem - January 6, 2009 at 8:52 am

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