(April 22, 2013 at 3:18 pm)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote:oh well, guess I need to be more specific on the nature of my atheism now. In the words of the governator", "I'll be back".(April 22, 2013 at 3:00 pm)frz Wrote: It seems the spiritual argument is confusing things. What I know of people who have claim spirituality is mostly about not taking sides as to which religion is right, but overall, they believe in god and all that monbo jombo stuff of ghosts and goblins. Because after all, spirituality is part of the whole god thing. So I don't understand why people are claiming both spirituality and atheism. They are just deists.
It's because atheism doesn't make any claims on spirituality, just on the lack of belief in a god or gods.
you can be "spiritual" and not believe in any gods (for example, mumbo jumbo about ghosts or whatever). Spiritual is not synonymous with deities.
I know some people who are de facto atheists, but who also believe in the powers of Chinese medicine, mainly the spiritual aspect of it. No gods included. Is is stupid? Probably, yes, but nobody is claiming that atheists can't be stupid, nor that they can't believe in a whole myriad of things.
If one wanted to exclude spirituality (I'm not a spiritualist), one could quantify by saying "I'm a materialist, and an atheist", as they don't inform each other all.
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Atheism - less war? - by Dawud - April 22, 2013 at 8:46 am
RE: Atheism - less war? - by Zen Badger - April 22, 2013 at 9:00 am
RE: Atheism - less war? - by Minimalist - April 22, 2013 at 3:38 pm
RE: Atheism - less war? - by The Grand Nudger - April 22, 2013 at 9:01 am
RE: Atheism - less war? - by Kayenneh - April 22, 2013 at 9:18 am
RE: Atheism - less war? - by The Grand Nudger - April 22, 2013 at 9:24 am
RE: Atheism - less war? - by Anomalocaris - April 22, 2013 at 9:28 am
RE: Atheism - less war? - by Dawud - April 22, 2013 at 9:41 am
RE: Atheism - less war? - by Napoléon - April 22, 2013 at 9:51 am
RE: Atheism - less war? - by Anomalocaris - April 22, 2013 at 9:52 am
RE: Atheism - less war? - by Kayenneh - April 22, 2013 at 9:46 am
RE: Atheism - less war? - by thesummerqueen - April 22, 2013 at 9:48 am
RE: Atheism - less war? - by The Grand Nudger - April 22, 2013 at 9:51 am
RE: Atheism - less war? - by Dawud - April 22, 2013 at 9:51 am
RE: Atheism - less war? - by Napoléon - April 22, 2013 at 9:53 am
RE: Atheism - less war? - by KichigaiNeko - April 22, 2013 at 9:53 am
RE: Atheism - less war? - by Anomalocaris - April 22, 2013 at 9:56 am
RE: Atheism - less war? - by Cinjin - April 22, 2013 at 10:16 am
RE: Atheism - less war? - by thesummerqueen - April 22, 2013 at 9:52 am
RE: Atheism - less war? - by thesummerqueen - April 22, 2013 at 9:53 am
RE: Atheism - less war? - by KichigaiNeko - April 22, 2013 at 10:00 am
RE: Atheism - less war? - by Tonus - April 22, 2013 at 10:03 am
Re: RE: Atheism - less war? - by frz - April 22, 2013 at 11:16 am
RE: Atheism - less war? - by Dawud - April 22, 2013 at 11:53 am
RE: Atheism - less war? - by The Grand Nudger - April 22, 2013 at 11:56 am
RE: Atheism - less war? - by Dawud - April 22, 2013 at 11:58 am
RE: Atheism - less war? - by thesummerqueen - April 22, 2013 at 11:58 am
RE: Atheism - less war? - by Dawud - April 22, 2013 at 11:58 am
RE: Atheism - less war? - by thesummerqueen - April 22, 2013 at 12:06 pm
RE: Atheism - less war? - by The Grand Nudger - April 22, 2013 at 12:02 pm
RE: Atheism - less war? - by Dawud - April 22, 2013 at 12:05 pm
RE: Atheism - less war? - by Fidel_Castronaut - April 22, 2013 at 1:26 pm
RE: Atheism - less war? - by The Grand Nudger - April 22, 2013 at 12:06 pm
RE: Atheism - less war? - by Tonus - April 22, 2013 at 12:07 pm
RE: Atheism - less war? - by Silver - April 22, 2013 at 12:07 pm
RE: Atheism - less war? - by Dawud - April 22, 2013 at 12:07 pm
RE: Atheism - less war? - by The Grand Nudger - April 22, 2013 at 12:08 pm
RE: Atheism - less war? - by Dawud - April 22, 2013 at 12:09 pm
RE: Atheism - less war? - by The Grand Nudger - April 22, 2013 at 12:11 pm
RE: Atheism - less war? - by Silver - April 22, 2013 at 12:11 pm
RE: Atheism - less war? - by The Grand Nudger - April 22, 2013 at 12:14 pm
RE: Atheism - less war? - by Silver - April 22, 2013 at 12:23 pm
RE: Atheism - less war? - by Dawud - April 22, 2013 at 2:20 pm
RE: Atheism - less war? - by Fidel_Castronaut - April 22, 2013 at 2:23 pm
RE: Atheism - less war? - by Dawud - April 22, 2013 at 12:20 pm
RE: Atheism - less war? - by LastPoet - April 22, 2013 at 12:25 pm
RE: Atheism - less war? - by Jerome - April 22, 2013 at 12:26 pm
RE: Atheism - less war? - by downbeatplumb - April 22, 2013 at 12:31 pm
RE: Atheism - less war? - by Anomalocaris - April 22, 2013 at 2:58 pm
RE: Atheism - less war? - by The Grand Nudger - April 22, 2013 at 12:33 pm
RE: Atheism - less war? - by thesummerqueen - April 22, 2013 at 1:30 pm
RE: Atheism - less war? - by A_Nony_Mouse - April 22, 2013 at 1:36 pm
RE: Atheism - less war? - by The Grand Nudger - April 22, 2013 at 1:37 pm
RE: Atheism - less war? - by A_Nony_Mouse - April 23, 2013 at 10:29 am
RE: Atheism - less war? - by Dawud - April 22, 2013 at 2:24 pm
RE: Atheism - less war? - by Darkstar - April 22, 2013 at 3:36 pm
RE: Atheism - less war? - by paulpablo - April 22, 2013 at 2:26 pm
RE: Atheism - less war? - by The Grand Nudger - April 22, 2013 at 2:50 pm
Re: Atheism - less war? - by frz - April 22, 2013 at 3:00 pm
RE: Atheism - less war? - by Fidel_Castronaut - April 22, 2013 at 3:18 pm
RE: Atheism - less war? - by Anomalocaris - April 22, 2013 at 3:06 pm
RE: Atheism - less war? - by The Grand Nudger - April 22, 2013 at 3:40 pm
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RE: Atheism - less war? - by Dawud - April 22, 2013 at 5:05 pm
RE: Atheism - less war? - by The Grand Nudger - April 22, 2013 at 5:14 pm
RE: Atheism - less war? - by Dawud - April 22, 2013 at 5:17 pm
RE: Atheism - less war? - by The Grand Nudger - April 22, 2013 at 5:20 pm
RE: Atheism - less war? - by Dawud - April 22, 2013 at 5:20 pm
RE: Atheism - less war? - by Tonus - April 22, 2013 at 6:27 pm
RE: Atheism - less war? - by The Grand Nudger - April 22, 2013 at 5:22 pm
RE: Atheism - less war? - by Dawud - April 22, 2013 at 5:25 pm
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RE: Atheism - less war? - by Fidel_Castronaut - April 22, 2013 at 5:50 pm
RE: Atheism - less war? - by The Grand Nudger - April 22, 2013 at 5:31 pm
RE: Atheism - less war? - by Dawud - April 22, 2013 at 5:59 pm
RE: Atheism - less war? - by The Grand Nudger - April 22, 2013 at 6:08 pm
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RE: Atheism - less war? - by The Grand Nudger - April 23, 2013 at 11:07 am
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