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Atheism is not a belief!!
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RE: Atheism is not a belief!!
(April 25, 2013 at 9:48 am)purplepurpose Wrote: If there is no God,

We're going to address these propositions one at a time, because soup sandwich always follows this sentence.

Quote:then there is no immortal soul,
Doesn't follow. There being no god in no way precludes the existence of an immortal soul - case in point, there have been many belief systems which are void of gods but chock full of "immortal souls"

Quote:consciousness
Again, it doesn't follow. Meanwhile, you and I both would accept the existence of "consciousness" (though I'd add heavy qualifiers) in this world, right here - in which there is a disagreement about the status of the existence of gods. Regardless of which persons pov is accurate (between you and I) consciousness still seems to be on the table either way.

Quote:which according to karma tastes sweet fruits of good deeds committed on earth like planets. Or experience extreme pain in hell for violence and drug use, sins.
Which according to fairy tales - followed by fairy tales and quaint notions. I'm thoroughly unimpressed. How can anything be -according to- a non-existent "anything" in the first place?

Quote:If there is no life after death, reincarnation, then we all are free to do anything, taking in account only law, our morals.
Even if there is we are still free to "do anything" except that what you've described isn't "anything" at all - since you saw fit to immediately modify it with our laws and moral codes.

Quote:If there is no God then it doest make a big difference.
Apparently, even if there is, it still doesn;t make a big difference, que the many examples of people who -if only through brute force of demographics both believe in a god and commit their lives to:

Quote:wealth, power, fame, family, cybergaming, sport, sex, drugs, intoxication, overeating, violence.
.............................

Quote: But who the f*** cares.
Apparently you, and also I - and again we see a place where a belief in a god or the existence of a god seems to be completely toothless. If there were no gods would you suddenly stop giving a shit? Would you devote your life to any of those things above that you negatively value (laying aside criticism of -why- you negatively value any of those things)

Quote:Although I can't say this about love - giving, forgiving, altruism, humanism, charity.
You can't say what about these things..precisely?

Quote:Love has some magic it it. Love is like a newborn baby its pure and saint.
How this magic called Love came from void, is strange.
Does it now? I was unawares. Do you know much about the "purity" of a newborn baby - what does this mean and how did you aqcuire this knowledge - or- is it (as I suspect) a platitude? What magic? Do you similarly wonder how -anything- could have come from the same void - or do you suspend your wonder and skepticism when invoking gods and magic?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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Messages In This Thread
Atheism is not a belief!! - by The Reality Salesman - April 25, 2013 at 8:53 am
RE: Atheism is not a belief!! - by thesummerqueen - April 25, 2013 at 9:19 am
RE: Atheism is not a belief!! - by purplepurpose - April 25, 2013 at 9:48 am
RE: Atheism is not a belief!! - by The Reality Salesman - April 25, 2013 at 9:49 am
RE: Atheism is not a belief!! - by Creed of Heresy - April 26, 2013 at 8:24 am
RE: Atheism is not a belief!! - by Minimalist - April 25, 2013 at 9:49 am
RE: Atheism is not a belief!! - by thesummerqueen - April 25, 2013 at 9:51 am
RE: Atheism is not a belief!! - by purplepurpose - April 25, 2013 at 9:54 am
RE: Atheism is not a belief!! - by The Reality Salesman - April 25, 2013 at 10:03 am
RE: Atheism is not a belief!! - by Tonus - April 25, 2013 at 10:17 am
RE: Atheism is not a belief!! - by The Reality Salesman - April 25, 2013 at 10:21 am
RE: Atheism is not a belief!! - by thesummerqueen - April 25, 2013 at 10:00 am
RE: Atheism is not a belief!! - by The Grand Nudger - April 25, 2013 at 10:01 am
RE: Atheism is not a belief!! - by The Grand Nudger - April 25, 2013 at 10:11 am
RE: Atheism is not a belief!! - by Jackalope - April 25, 2013 at 3:39 pm
RE: Atheism is not a belief!! - by Minimalist - April 25, 2013 at 10:22 am
RE: Atheism is not a belief!! - by thesummerqueen - April 25, 2013 at 10:25 am
RE: Atheism is not a belief!! - by Minimalist - April 25, 2013 at 3:50 pm
RE: Atheism is not a belief!! - by purplepurpose - April 25, 2013 at 11:17 am
RE: Atheism is not a belief!! - by The Reality Salesman - April 25, 2013 at 11:21 am
RE: Atheism is not a belief!! - by Fidel_Castronaut - April 26, 2013 at 5:11 am
RE: Atheism is not a belief!! - by thesummerqueen - April 25, 2013 at 11:17 am
RE: Atheism is not a belief!! - by Tonus - April 25, 2013 at 11:19 am
RE: Atheism is not a belief!! - by Violet - April 25, 2013 at 12:59 pm
RE: Atheism is not a belief!! - by The Reality Salesman - April 25, 2013 at 1:04 pm
RE: Atheism is not a belief!! - by Violet - April 25, 2013 at 1:08 pm
RE: Atheism is not a belief!! - by The Reality Salesman - April 25, 2013 at 1:29 pm
RE: Atheism is not a belief!! - by Violet - April 25, 2013 at 1:54 pm
RE: Atheism is not a belief!! - by The Reality Salesman - April 26, 2013 at 11:18 am
RE: Atheism is not a belief!! - by The Reality Salesman - April 25, 2013 at 2:31 pm
RE: Atheism is not a belief!! - by Violet - April 25, 2013 at 7:20 pm
RE: Atheism is not a belief!! - by The Reality Salesman - April 26, 2013 at 9:36 am
RE: Atheism is not a belief!! - by AtheistPilot - April 28, 2013 at 8:41 am
RE: Atheism is not a belief!! - by Dawud - April 25, 2013 at 5:31 pm
RE: Atheism is not a belief!! - by Neo-Scholastic - April 25, 2013 at 8:55 pm
RE: Atheism is not a belief!! - by Faith No More - April 25, 2013 at 9:02 pm
RE: Atheism is not a belief!! - by Esquilax - April 26, 2013 at 4:13 am
RE: Atheism is not a belief!! - by Little Rik - April 26, 2013 at 9:14 am
RE: Atheism is not a belief!! - by Esquilax - April 26, 2013 at 9:28 am
RE: Atheism is not a belief!! - by Simon Moon - April 26, 2013 at 2:46 pm
RE: Atheism is not a belief!! - by Mister Agenda - April 26, 2013 at 3:02 pm
RE: Atheism is not a belief!! - by Dawud - April 25, 2013 at 9:05 pm
RE: Atheism is not a belief!! - by Beardio1 - April 25, 2013 at 9:29 pm
RE: Atheism is not a belief!! - by Godschild - April 26, 2013 at 2:22 pm
RE: Atheism is not a belief!! - by Creed of Heresy - April 26, 2013 at 7:14 pm
RE: Atheism is not a belief!! - by Neo-Scholastic - April 27, 2013 at 12:24 am
RE: Atheism is not a belief!! - by downbeatplumb - April 27, 2013 at 3:28 am
RE: Atheism is not a belief!! - by Godschild - April 26, 2013 at 1:12 am
RE: Atheism is not a belief!! - by Silver - April 26, 2013 at 1:18 am
RE: Atheism is not a belief!! - by Godschild - April 26, 2013 at 1:59 am
RE: Atheism is not a belief!! - by The Reality Salesman - April 26, 2013 at 7:59 am
RE: Atheism is not a belief!! - by Dawud - April 26, 2013 at 8:43 am
Re: RE: Atheism is not a belief!! - by frz - April 26, 2013 at 11:17 am
Re: RE: Atheism is not a belief!! - by frz - April 26, 2013 at 11:32 am
RE: Atheism is not a belief!! - by Gearbreak - April 26, 2013 at 4:59 pm
RE: Atheism is not a belief!! - by Dawud - April 27, 2013 at 7:58 am
RE: Atheism is not a belief!! - by Fidel_Castronaut - April 28, 2013 at 9:49 am
RE: Atheism is not a belief!! - by The Reality Salesman - April 28, 2013 at 10:03 am
RE: Atheism is not a belief!! - by Tonus - April 28, 2013 at 12:15 pm
RE: Atheism is not a belief!! - by Godschild - April 26, 2013 at 7:47 pm
RE: Atheism is not a belief!! - by The Reality Salesman - April 26, 2013 at 11:32 pm
RE: Atheism is not a belief!! - by Godschild - April 27, 2013 at 3:35 am
RE: Atheism is not a belief!! - by The Reality Salesman - April 27, 2013 at 8:14 am
RE: Atheism is not a belief!! - by Creed of Heresy - April 26, 2013 at 9:00 pm
RE: Atheism is not a belief!! - by Godschild - April 27, 2013 at 3:15 am
RE: Atheism is not a belief!! - by Creed of Heresy - April 27, 2013 at 10:06 am
RE: Atheism is not a belief!! - by Neo-Scholastic - April 27, 2013 at 10:51 pm
RE: Atheism is not a belief!! - by Dragonetti - April 27, 2013 at 11:41 pm
RE: Atheism is not a belief!! - by Cato - April 28, 2013 at 12:02 am
RE: Atheism is not a belief!! - by Dawud - April 27, 2013 at 4:24 pm
RE: Atheism is not a belief!! - by Tonus - April 27, 2013 at 6:27 pm
RE: Atheism is not a belief!! - by Dawud - April 28, 2013 at 5:52 am
RE: Atheism is not a belief!! - by downbeatplumb - April 28, 2013 at 6:00 am
RE: Atheism is not a belief!! - by Creed of Heresy - April 28, 2013 at 8:27 pm

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