(May 1, 2013 at 7:26 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: No, that is absolutely how it works, smax used language that is only meaningful if God existed (you cannot ask how someone knows if someone is not dead without assuming that person was at one point living). The bigger problem here is that smax asked a nonsensical question, it’d be like asking, “How do you know that squares do not really have 5 corners?” Well because by definition squares cannot have five corners just as by definition God cannot die. If you want to ask how we know God exists then fine, but asking how we know God is not dead is absurd because by definition God cannot die. The original question was illogical. What you’re trying to do is nothing more than the fallacy of the bait and switch.
You're really just going to stop your imagination dead at the point that agrees with your beliefs? That's not how this works. We're already basically talking fanfiction with your god anyway, and since it's all unverifiable nonsense to begin with, what's to stop one from just saying that, I dunno, an even more omnipotent magical being suddenly popped into existence and killed your god with his double magic powers? Or that god tried his hand at creation again, fucked it up again, and ended up making something powerful enough to kill him?
None of this is any more implausible than the original god claim you've failed to demonstrate, so why the fuck not?
Quote:Thor doesn’t exist.
Ooh, if only you'd follow that logic to it's natural conclusion...
Quote:…only if you love rationality, but not many atheists actually do this day and age.
Quote:Yes, but that doesn’t prove the one above that is also absurd, God is a non-contingent being, humans are contingent beings (and are contingent upon God’s existence, so if Humans exist it logically follows that God must also still be living).
Is it possible for God to be dead but to never have existed in the first place?
Would you like to demonstrate literally any part of this wild ass assertion you just made?
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