How do you know God isn't dead?

[Statler Waldorf]

Logic is ONLY a process. P1 and P2 must be demonstrably and observably correct before there are any "therefores."

That’s actually incorrect, in deductive logic there is no obligation for a person to demonstrate that their premises are true, premises are assumed to be true unless otherwise refuted.

You'd have a great point if it weren't for a litte thing people call "context". Look it up, review your analisys, tuck your tail between your legs. You know the routine.

I did look it up, and the definition is exactly what I said it was. Definitions matter.

Blah blah blah... you got nothing.

Are you serious? You’re not sophisticated enough to realize that a sound deductive proof always trumps inductive reasoning? I bet illusionists love having you in their audience.

God is supposed to be flawless, and yet almost everything that he allegedly created is flawed.

Have you never read Genesis? There’s this thing Christians like to call “the Fall.”

Is that like self mutilation or something?

Nope, it’s just a creature in rebellion against his creator.

Sounds like I need a whoopin. And yet I won't get one!

That depends. It’s interesting you admit you deserve one though.

I guess you missed the part where myself, and most other people on this forum, do not accept that premise.

The truth of a premise is in no way dependent upon who accepts it. Premises are assumed to be true until otherwise refuted.

If I make up a character, and I assign the attribute of unquestioned leader of all people, I suspect many will challenge that attribute, both in word and action.

Of course, you just admitted that you made him up. I in no way made up Yahweh so that’s a fallacious analogy.

I assigned myself to the quote.

No you did not. Why would you fix one of your own quotes for yourself? They’re very strict about that rule here, which is a very good thing about this forum.

And you claim an above average IQ.

No, you implied my IQ is above average. I’ve never tested it.

You my be beat to hell after 15 rounds, but you'll go the 15 and be ready for more of your own blood!

You mean “may”?

Studid is as stupid does

You know people’s actions are necessarily consistent with what they really believe because of what Forrest Gump says in a movie?

They either do or they don't, agreed?

Yes.

So, with that, which way does the evidence point?

That they do.

If you invent your own methods of interpretation and comminication, of course you are going to struggle to have fluid interaction with people.

I do not struggle to interact with anyone.

I've been around enough religion to see a lot. Most of the religious people I've been around are mostly irreverent. And, considering the "stakes", I'd say that action speaks loud and clear.

That’s the fallacy of the hasty generalization. There are 2.3 billion Christians in the World, how many have you been around?

You mean like asking him to fix my head on backward. Yeah, that's really the kind of challenge a believer would issue to god!

No, like the fact that you claim that once we’re dead we’re gone, and therefore this is all the time we have, and yet you sit there and waste all of this time on an internet forum. If you really believed in annihilation there’s no way you’d be sitting there wasting your time debating the existence of something that you claim to know doesn’t exist with people who do believe it exists. Talk about a person’s actions not matching up with claimed beliefs. Not only this, but if you indeed knew that God didn’t exist why are you so horrible at backing this claim up? Surely you’ve got at least a half-way decent argument to support this claim, and yet all you present is a multitude of logically fallacious arguments, incoherent statements, total arbitrariness, and personal attacks; it’s all very underwhelming.

The same thing you seem so offended by in this thread was a trademark of the writings of Mark Twain, who used rhetoric and parody to great effect.

Mark Twain is a theist now.

Might I be so bold as to assume that you and SW have some history here, and that maybe, just maybe, you feel he's gotten the better of you?

You’re really not going to make many friends here if you keep this sort of childish behavior up. Pocaracas and I have had a few debates, but I would not say I have ever necessarily gotten the better of him, he’s just a very intellectually honest and rather sophisticated poster on here, and that’s why he’s willing to call you out on your mistakes.

Aye, I see the irony.
The theists, on the other hand, can come up with convoluted ways to make it work.... I've heard of Jesus riding dinos, so there you have one option.

I am not aware of any theist that believes Jesus rode dinosaurs, where did you hear that?

From where I stand, both you and SW are equally new here, to me, both are equally anonymous, except that you are here as an atheist, and he is here as a theist.

Yup, I think you signed up during my hiatus away from the forum.

If there is one thing I've learned in this forum, it's that, if you use the supposition that their god exists, then you better be ready to follow through with their definition of the god, not yours... sometimes, the difference is subtle, but they'll latch on to that difference and keep banging you on the head with it.
Is it worth it?

You’re absolutely right, like I said earlier, once smax granted us Yahweh’s existence this debate was over, well at least should have been ten pages ago, but he’s persistent.