RE: How do you know God isn't dead?
May 5, 2013 at 11:42 pm
(This post was last modified: May 5, 2013 at 11:44 pm by FallentoReason.)
Statler Waldorf Wrote:I never said you have to believe in my God, but in order to ask the question, “How do you know God is not dead?” you have to assume God exists. If you do not believe God exists then do not bother asking such an absurd question.
The concept exists in my head. When I speak of it, it's implied that I must be speaking in hypothetical terms since I don't believe in it. Therefore, I can rationally speak about your god without believing he exists, because a concept and an object in reality representing the concept are two different things.
Quote:No, God sustaining Humanity is also a Christian doctrine so the Muslims didn’t “one up” anybody.
Touché
Quote:This thread is about Yahweh, not Allah, so that’s irrelevant to the discussion.
But your claims are such that its as if you take it upon yourself that you ought to show why your god "one ups" all other gods, but as soon as I point out a similar trait in some other culture's god, you say my statement has no place in the discussion. Sounds a lot like communism; spreading your "propaganda" and shutting down anyone else who opposes it.
Quote:If the point of this thread was, “How do you know Allah is not dead?” then your point would be relevant. However, it is a red herring, the OP granted the existence of Yahweh, he never granted the existence of Allah. Since for the purpose of this thread we are assuming that Yahweh exists (and therefore Allah does not exist) we can certainly use the fact that people still exist and believe in Him to prove that He still exists.
Why bother spreading that bit of propaganda? You've been appointed as the dictator of this thread from the moment the OP said your god exists in real life. What's the point in saying "God exists. People believe in God. Therefore God exists"?
Quote:Not only this, but we can use the ontological truth that Yahweh cannot die.
More meaningless propaganda that you're propagating in a thread you've already hijacked.
Quote:You know that you can’t win either way, that’s why you keep being irrational by tossing out red herrings and points that are utterly irrelevant to the discussion. Once smax granted us the existence of Yahweh this debate was over.
Precisely, the discussion was over before it started. Either smax has to change his "religious views" upon making this thread OR... or, you've missed the entire point that everyone has been trying to show you.
You can't will a being into existence.
After all this nonsense, we're still at square one: why is all of your hypothetical propaganda which only "makes sense" in your hypothetical nation useful in any way, shape or form in reality? The moment I stop looking at this thread I go back to the world in which your god doesn't exist.
*shrugs*
C'mon man, show me the money.
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it" ~ Aristotle