How do you know God isn't dead?

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I intentionally leave a couple of simple, yet irrelevent mistakes. I demand that you edit my post. And you do!

I have no issues at all with doing that, it makes you look rather uneducated. It’s irrelevant not irrelevent.

In the real world, that's a called a bitch. I didn't coin the term, I'm just familiar with it. Don't kill the messenger.

Someone who helps you with your spelling and grammar? I believe it’s called a tutor.

Anyway, you are wrong about those scriptures, and that's why you aren't breaking them down contextually. Because you know you can't make your case that way.

I am not wrong at all, Matthew traces the lineage to Mary, proving Jesus is a son of David, and Luke traces the lineage to Joseph son of Heli; you just didn’t have a clue what you were talking about.

Instead, you just deflect by questioning the meaning of the text.

No, I questioned the translation, the term should have been translated as Father of Mary (which is obvious from the fact this is Mary’s bloodline not Joseph’s) as the ancient Aramaic texts have it translated, the word used there can mean either father or husband in Greek so Matthew did not make a mistake at all, he was merely talking about Mary’s father Joseph.

= Jacob is Joseph's father

Yes, Jacob is the father of Joseph who is the Father of Mary, that’s how it reads in the original Greek and that’s what Christians believe is infallible. Mary’s husband was Joseph son of Heli.

Jesus was about thirty years old when he began his work. He was the son (as was thought) of Joseph son of Heli = Heli is Joseph's father[/i]

Yup.

In both cases, Joseph (Jesus father and Mary's husband) is clearly indentified and different father's are given.

You mean identified? And you’re wrong, in the original text Matthew says Mary’s father is the son of Jacob and Luke says that Jesus’s adopted father Joseph is the son of Heli. Joseph was a very common name from that time period.

Also, one can't help but notice how you ignore the fact that Joseph's lineage is irrelevent if Jesus was truly conceived of the holy spirit. Even to the writers of the writers of the writers of the Bible, a virgin birth just doesn't make sense, so they included Joseph's lineage!

Adopted lineages are not irrelevant in Jewish culture at all. The virgin birth makes perfect sense to me.

By the way, tossed a few mistakes in there for you. Have fun little buddy!

No problem my uneducated and ignorant friend.

I’ll ask these questions again since you ignored them the first time (I am thinking you cannot answer them).

What gave birth to the first Human and what did the first Human mate with?
How do you know that you can trust your ability to reason? Your senses? Your memory?