RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism
May 9, 2013 at 12:19 pm
(This post was last modified: May 9, 2013 at 12:22 pm by xdrgnh.)
(May 9, 2013 at 12:15 pm)Ryantology Wrote: I see no reason to attach the title 'God' to anything less than an intelligent designer.
How G-d or even the Theist G-d have intelligence if intelligence is something that is characteristic of living organism which are carbon based and are made out of space time and matter where G-d is neither of those. G-d has no intelligence. A Deistic view of G-d and creation would not even require a designer of the universe just a creator. The universe could of been made without a plan and done in a random way. But the existence of the universe would still need a first cause who is not a material being because material cannot create other material from nothing.
(May 9, 2013 at 12:17 pm)Ben Davis Wrote:(May 8, 2013 at 8:43 pm)xdrgnh Wrote: If you cannot refute Deism...There's no need to refute a claim for which there is no evidence.
(May 8, 2013 at 8:43 pm)xdrgnh Wrote: ...then I don't see why one should call themselves an Atheist.I use the label 'atheist' to identify the fact that I have no belief in theistic propositions, that's all. No inference for the reason for my lack of belief can be inferred from the label.
This generation of Atheist is to reliant on science for truth. Science can disprove not prove.You can prove Deism as I have shown using logic and reason. Are you saying logic and reason is not good enough for a proof? Even mathematics uses logic and reason to prove and not evidence.
