Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism

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Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism

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RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism

May 9, 2013 at 1:47 pm

(May 9, 2013 at 1:42 pm)xdrgnh Wrote:
(May 9, 2013 at 1:41 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: Do we know this? Really? You treat this as a settled issue in cosmology and physics, when in fact it is not.

Science can disprove not prove. We disproved a eternal universe via experiment. Therefore if the universe is not eternal it's existence must of started in a point in time or 13.7 billion years ago plus or minus.

So it is your contention that the Big Bang was creation ex nihilo, and not a transformation of (something, we know not what) that was already existent? And that we somehow have been able to rule out the latter?

Because if that's true, and you can demonstrate it, that would be news to a whole bunch of physicists that have been working on that particular problem.

Your Nobel prize awaits.

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Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by xdrgnh - May 8, 2013 at 8:43 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by Minimalist - May 8, 2013 at 9:00 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by xdrgnh - May 8, 2013 at 9:04 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by Minimalist - May 8, 2013 at 9:33 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by Rayaan - May 8, 2013 at 9:07 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by xdrgnh - May 8, 2013 at 9:10 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by Neo-Scholastic - May 8, 2013 at 9:17 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by Rayaan - May 8, 2013 at 9:29 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by downbeatplumb - May 9, 2013 at 12:26 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by Gearbreak - May 8, 2013 at 9:15 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by xdrgnh - May 8, 2013 at 9:20 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by Esquilax - May 8, 2013 at 9:26 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by xdrgnh - May 8, 2013 at 9:38 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by Minimalist - May 8, 2013 at 10:59 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by xdrgnh - May 8, 2013 at 11:36 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by Esquilax - May 9, 2013 at 12:18 am

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by xdrgnh - May 9, 2013 at 12:20 am

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by Esquilax - May 9, 2013 at 1:12 am

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by Tonus - May 9, 2013 at 9:40 am

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RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by Ryantology - May 9, 2013 at 1:17 am

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RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by Minimalist - May 9, 2013 at 2:11 am

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by fr0d0 - May 9, 2013 at 3:56 am

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by Violet - May 9, 2013 at 1:49 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by Minimalist - May 9, 2013 at 2:51 pm

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RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by Minimalist - May 12, 2013 at 6:26 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by xdrgnh - May 9, 2013 at 12:05 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by Ryantology - May 9, 2013 at 12:15 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by xdrgnh - May 9, 2013 at 12:19 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by Ryantology - May 9, 2013 at 1:29 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by xdrgnh - May 9, 2013 at 1:33 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by downbeatplumb - May 9, 2013 at 1:36 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by xdrgnh - May 9, 2013 at 1:40 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by downbeatplumb - May 9, 2013 at 1:48 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by Violet - May 9, 2013 at 1:55 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by xdrgnh - May 9, 2013 at 1:57 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by Violet - May 9, 2013 at 2:06 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by Jackalope - May 9, 2013 at 3:22 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by Ryantology - May 9, 2013 at 2:02 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by xdrgnh - May 9, 2013 at 2:09 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by Ryantology - May 9, 2013 at 2:18 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by Violet - May 9, 2013 at 2:35 pm

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RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by Ben Davis - May 9, 2013 at 12:17 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by Simon Moon - May 9, 2013 at 12:32 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by xdrgnh - May 9, 2013 at 12:44 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by Jackalope - May 9, 2013 at 1:41 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by xdrgnh - May 9, 2013 at 1:42 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by Jackalope - May 9, 2013 at 1:47 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by xdrgnh - May 9, 2013 at 1:50 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by Jackalope - May 9, 2013 at 2:27 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by Gearbreak - May 9, 2013 at 2:03 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by Napoléon - May 10, 2013 at 8:32 am

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RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by Minimalist - May 10, 2013 at 4:46 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by Jackalope - May 10, 2013 at 5:05 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by Violet - May 10, 2013 at 6:34 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by The Grand Nudger - May 10, 2013 at 10:17 pm

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