Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism

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Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism

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RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism

May 10, 2013 at 5:05 pm

I have no issue with deism or deists, personally. However, I see no practical difference in how I would personally live my live with or without knowledge or belief in a deistic god. With our current understanding of reality, god-as-first-cause seems to me to be unprovable and unfalsifiable, and it's not clear that such a being is necessarily necessary.

If a first cause turns out to be necessary (and this is not clearly the case, IMO), if someone wishes to call it "god", it's of no concern to me. How one could claim to know anything about such a being is beyond our capabilities (IMO) at present.

I'm content to say "I don't know" for now. Perhaps that will change.

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Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by xdrgnh - May 8, 2013 at 8:43 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by Minimalist - May 8, 2013 at 9:00 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by xdrgnh - May 8, 2013 at 9:04 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by Minimalist - May 8, 2013 at 9:33 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by Rayaan - May 8, 2013 at 9:07 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by xdrgnh - May 8, 2013 at 9:10 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by Neo-Scholastic - May 8, 2013 at 9:17 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by Rayaan - May 8, 2013 at 9:29 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by downbeatplumb - May 9, 2013 at 12:26 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by Gearbreak - May 8, 2013 at 9:15 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by xdrgnh - May 8, 2013 at 9:20 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by Esquilax - May 8, 2013 at 9:26 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by xdrgnh - May 8, 2013 at 9:38 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by Minimalist - May 8, 2013 at 10:59 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by xdrgnh - May 8, 2013 at 11:36 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by Esquilax - May 9, 2013 at 12:18 am

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by xdrgnh - May 9, 2013 at 12:20 am

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by Esquilax - May 9, 2013 at 1:12 am

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by Tonus - May 9, 2013 at 9:40 am

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by Baalzebutt - May 9, 2013 at 1:02 am

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by FifthElement - May 9, 2013 at 1:11 am

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by Ryantology - May 9, 2013 at 1:17 am

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by cneron - May 9, 2013 at 1:42 am

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by fr0d0 - May 9, 2013 at 1:57 am

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by Minimalist - May 9, 2013 at 2:11 am

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by fr0d0 - May 9, 2013 at 3:56 am

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by Violet - May 9, 2013 at 1:49 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by Minimalist - May 9, 2013 at 2:51 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by tokutter - May 10, 2013 at 8:25 am

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by Minimalist - May 12, 2013 at 6:26 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by xdrgnh - May 9, 2013 at 12:05 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by Ryantology - May 9, 2013 at 12:15 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by xdrgnh - May 9, 2013 at 12:19 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by Ryantology - May 9, 2013 at 1:29 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by xdrgnh - May 9, 2013 at 1:33 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by downbeatplumb - May 9, 2013 at 1:36 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by xdrgnh - May 9, 2013 at 1:40 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by downbeatplumb - May 9, 2013 at 1:48 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by Violet - May 9, 2013 at 1:55 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by xdrgnh - May 9, 2013 at 1:57 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by Violet - May 9, 2013 at 2:06 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by Jackalope - May 9, 2013 at 3:22 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by Ryantology - May 9, 2013 at 2:02 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by xdrgnh - May 9, 2013 at 2:09 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by Ryantology - May 9, 2013 at 2:18 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by Violet - May 9, 2013 at 2:35 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by Ben Davis - May 12, 2013 at 3:52 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by Ben Davis - May 9, 2013 at 12:17 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by Simon Moon - May 9, 2013 at 12:32 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by xdrgnh - May 9, 2013 at 12:44 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by Jackalope - May 9, 2013 at 1:41 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by xdrgnh - May 9, 2013 at 1:42 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by Jackalope - May 9, 2013 at 1:47 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by xdrgnh - May 9, 2013 at 1:50 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by Jackalope - May 9, 2013 at 2:27 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by Gearbreak - May 9, 2013 at 2:03 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by Napoléon - May 10, 2013 at 8:32 am

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by Neo-Scholastic - May 10, 2013 at 4:27 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by Simon Moon - May 10, 2013 at 5:58 pm

Re: RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by frz - May 10, 2013 at 9:48 am

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by Minimalist - May 10, 2013 at 4:46 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by Jackalope - May 10, 2013 at 5:05 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by Violet - May 10, 2013 at 6:34 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by The Grand Nudger - May 10, 2013 at 10:17 pm

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