Being that this thread is 33 pages long and I'm getting here late, I'm going to consider the middle 20 or so tl;dr so I can jump right in. Please let me know if this has been brought up before.
Theists often put forth the teleological argument (argument from design), saying that life was the end purpose for God creating the universe. A famous example is finding a watch on a beach and knowing that it has a designer. It gets advanced further by some people, sometimes crossing with the probability of life coming into existence, in claiming that complex machines like cars and planes need a designer and couldn't be produced by a tornado in a junk yard.
The question I always want to throw in there when this argument comes up is this: Cars, watches, and stone blocks were all designed with a particular function in mind. If life really shows signs of artifice, what is that function?
The universe, if anything, appears to be perfectly designed to produce black holes, not life.
Theists often put forth the teleological argument (argument from design), saying that life was the end purpose for God creating the universe. A famous example is finding a watch on a beach and knowing that it has a designer. It gets advanced further by some people, sometimes crossing with the probability of life coming into existence, in claiming that complex machines like cars and planes need a designer and couldn't be produced by a tornado in a junk yard.
The question I always want to throw in there when this argument comes up is this: Cars, watches, and stone blocks were all designed with a particular function in mind. If life really shows signs of artifice, what is that function?
The universe, if anything, appears to be perfectly designed to produce black holes, not life.
