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Question for Christians/Muslims etc.
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RE: Question for Christians/Muslims etc.
Your right things coming from nothing is hard to comprehend. But I submit to you that that door swings both ways. Were did everything then come from, do not the laws of thermodynamics say that matter is not created, but then again if it is not created then it must have always been. And if matter has always been then we would not exist now, for if it did not at one point have a beginning then also by the laws of thermo entropy would occur and all energy would have been lost.

Now how can matter be around infinitely and our scientist now have to find how that could have been for much of the big bang defies the laws of physics. These things are the what Stephen Hawking is trying to prove with his equation for all things.

Why would a perfect God create imperfect beings, well, He didn't. He did not create divine beings but He did create beings that were without sin. Were they imperfect because they made a wrong choice, no. They knew it was wrong and chose to rebel. Man in his desire to be more like God rebelled and created separation with God. Is it God's fault that He has given you freedom and you chose wrong, even after He told you it was wrong? No. Did God not know we would rebel? No, He knew, but even before He created us, He loved us and was willing to give Himself for us.

Again it is true there are many stories similar to the account of Bible. But my answer to you are that you can also find many counterfeits to the American dollar. Every man be the conviction of his heart tries to make a god into his own image and has perverted the image of the true God.

How does naturalism explain the natural mind? If we are just here by chance of random mutations, then our brains are little more than chemical reactions, and our rationality should therefore not be trusted because it is not of anything based upon logic but upon firings due to chemical reactions. I submit to you that man is rational and our rationality is beyond the natural order, in that it exists and is based on reality.

Even if you hate God or even the concept of Him, it still doesn't matter, He loves you and sent His Son to die for you. Christ died for the holiest of the saints to the wickedest of the sinners, for Mother Teresa to Adolf Hitler. Christ sacrifice was so effective that if you repent and believe on Him, He will forgive you of any sin, whether lying, hate, anger, stealing, cheating, lust, pornography, or even murder.
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Question for Christians/Muslims etc. - by Darwinian - December 2, 2009 at 6:28 am
RE: Question for Christians/Muslims etc. - by rjh4 - December 2, 2009 at 9:13 am
RE: Question for Christians/Muslims etc. - by Amphora - December 2, 2009 at 3:31 pm
RE: Question for Christians/Muslims etc. - by fr0d0 - December 2, 2009 at 4:42 pm
RE: Question for Christians/Muslims etc. - by tackattack - December 3, 2009 at 2:36 am
RE: Question for Christians/Muslims etc. - by Violet - December 3, 2009 at 3:25 pm
RE: Question for Christians/Muslims etc. - by Eilonnwy - December 3, 2009 at 4:30 pm
RE: Question for Christians/Muslims etc. - by Purple Rabbit - December 4, 2009 at 8:10 pm
RE: Question for Christians/Muslims etc. - by Rhizomorph13 - December 4, 2009 at 8:16 pm
RE: Question for Christians/Muslims etc. - by theVOID - December 4, 2009 at 11:52 pm
RE: Question for Christians/Muslims etc. - by Eilonnwy - December 4, 2009 at 9:03 pm
RE: Question for Christians/Muslims etc. - by A897 - December 27, 2009 at 6:43 am
RE: Question for Christians/Muslims etc. - by Darwinian - December 4, 2009 at 7:50 pm
RE: Question for Christians/Muslims etc. - by tackattack - December 10, 2009 at 9:47 pm
RE: Question for Christians/Muslims etc. - by Darwinian - December 4, 2009 at 8:12 pm
RE: Question for Christians/Muslims etc. - by Darwinian - December 4, 2009 at 8:48 pm
RE: Question for Christians/Muslims etc. - by Chilpotlenathan - December 4, 2009 at 9:20 pm
RE: Question for Christians/Muslims etc. - by Eilonnwy - December 4, 2009 at 9:33 pm
RE: Question for Christians/Muslims etc. - by theVOID - December 11, 2009 at 1:27 am
RE: Question for Christians/Muslims etc. - by Edwardo Piet - January 3, 2010 at 8:08 am
RE: Question for Christians/Muslims etc. - by Minimalist - December 4, 2009 at 9:31 pm
RE: Question for Christians/Muslims etc. - by Last_ Ray - December 26, 2009 at 5:18 pm
RE: Question for Christians/Muslims etc. - by leo-rcc - December 26, 2009 at 7:22 pm
RE: Question for Christians/Muslims etc. - by Darwinian - December 26, 2009 at 6:10 pm
RE: Question for Christians/Muslims etc. - by Last_ Ray - December 26, 2009 at 6:58 pm
RE: Question for Christians/Muslims etc. - by Darwinian - December 26, 2009 at 7:32 pm
RE: Question for Christians/Muslims etc. - by fr0d0 - December 27, 2009 at 8:09 am
RE: Question for Christians/Muslims etc. - by solarwave - January 2, 2010 at 7:10 am
RE: Question for Christians/Muslims etc. - by leo-rcc - January 2, 2010 at 8:58 am
RE: Question for Christians/Muslims etc. - by padraic - January 2, 2010 at 9:11 am
RE: Question for Christians/Muslims etc. - by chatpilot - January 2, 2010 at 12:43 pm
RE: Question for Christians/Muslims etc. - by Minimalist - January 2, 2010 at 8:08 pm
RE: Question for Christians/Muslims etc. - by solarwave - January 8, 2010 at 2:51 pm
RE: Question for Christians/Muslims etc. - by Edwardo Piet - January 8, 2010 at 7:37 pm
RE: Question for Christians/Muslims etc. - by padraic - January 8, 2010 at 6:33 pm
RE: Question for Christians/Muslims etc. - by tackattack - January 9, 2010 at 11:41 am
RE: Question for Christians/Muslims etc. - by Minimalist - January 9, 2010 at 8:20 pm
RE: Question for Christians/Muslims etc. - by Minimalist - January 8, 2010 at 11:48 pm
RE: Question for Christians/Muslims etc. - by A897 - January 9, 2010 at 4:28 am
RE: Question for Christians/Muslims etc. - by Edwardo Piet - January 9, 2010 at 6:09 am
RE: Question for Christians/Muslims etc. - by padraic - January 9, 2010 at 6:46 am
RE: Question for Christians/Muslims etc. - by padraic - January 9, 2010 at 5:00 pm
RE: Question for Christians/Muslims etc. - by tackattack - January 10, 2010 at 2:03 am
RE: Question for Christians/Muslims etc. - by Minimalist - January 10, 2010 at 5:01 pm
RE: Question for Christians/Muslims etc. - by tackattack - January 13, 2010 at 10:07 am
RE: Question for Christians/Muslims etc. - by Retorth - January 10, 2010 at 2:38 am
RE: Question for Christians/Muslims etc. - by tackattack - January 10, 2010 at 10:40 am
RE: Question for Christians/Muslims etc. - by Retorth - January 10, 2010 at 11:23 am
RE: Question for Christians/Muslims etc. - by tackattack - January 10, 2010 at 11:29 am
RE: Question for Christians/Muslims etc. - by Retorth - January 10, 2010 at 11:56 am
RE: Question for Christians/Muslims etc. - by Amphora - January 12, 2010 at 1:51 am
RE: Question for Christians/Muslims etc. - by Minimalist - January 12, 2010 at 1:54 am
RE: Question for Christians/Muslims etc. - by KichigaiNeko - January 12, 2010 at 3:11 am
RE: Question for Christians/Muslims etc. - by Minimalist - January 12, 2010 at 6:20 pm
RE: Question for Christians/Muslims etc. - by littlegrimlin1 - January 12, 2010 at 11:03 pm
RE: Question for Christians/Muslims etc. - by Retorth - January 13, 2010 at 2:54 am
RE: Question for Christians/Muslims etc. - by Minimalist - January 13, 2010 at 12:10 pm

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