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Undeceived Wrote: You're right. It is sobering to find "Christian" men who ignore these verses:
"Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her." Ephesians 5:25
"In this same way, husbands ought to love their wives as their own bodies." Ephesians 5:28
I can still love my dog Maggie like I love myself and expect her to shut her trap and not chew shit up.
Oh and in case you missed it,
Eccles. 26:14-15
"A silent and loving woman is a gift of the Lord: and there is nothing so much worth as a mind well instructed. A shamefaced and faithful woman is a double grace, and her continent mind cannot be valued."
Eccles. 26:9-10
"The whoredom of a woman may be known in her haughty looks and eyelids. If thy daughter be shameless, keep her in straitly, lest she abuse herself through overmuch liberty."
Corinthians 14:34-35
"Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law. And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church."
I Timothy 2:11
Let a woman learn in silence with all submission. 12 And I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man, but to be in silence.
1 Peter 3:1
Likewise, wives, be subject to your own husbands, so that even if some do not obey the word, they may be won without a word by the conduct of their wives, when they see your respectful and pure conduct.
1 Tim. 2:12-14
I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man.
Ephesians 5:24
Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit in everything to their husbands.
I Timothy 2:11-14
And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression."
I Corinthians 11:3
But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God."
Gen 3:16
Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire [shall be] to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.
Ephesians 5:22-24
"Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body. Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in everything."
Col 3:18
Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as it is fit in the Lord.
Eccles.26:25
"A shameless woman shall be counted as a dog; but she that is shamefaced will fear the Lord."
Eccles. 42:13-14
"For from garments cometh a moth, and from women wickedness. Better is the churlishness of a man than a courteous woman, a woman, I say, which bringeth shame and reproach."
1 Cor. 11:7
"A man is the image and glory of God; but the woman is the glory of man."
This guy is considered a True Christian by millions, so what are you if you don't follow the teachings of your own bible?
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!
Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
Quote:Some people deserve hell.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.