(May 22, 2013 at 1:20 am)That guy who asked questions Wrote: I typically disagree with abortion simply because I define person-hood at conception and I usually hold the moral that killing is wrong. I don't see how anyone with a comprehensive knowledge of human prenatal development could support abortion to be honest.And I fail to see how anyone with a comprehensive knowledge of human prenatal development couldn't support abortion. Based on the fact that you "define person-hood at conception" I think we can safely say you have little to no lnowledge of human prenatal development.
(May 22, 2013 at 1:20 am)That guy who asked questions Wrote: To the argument, "abortion = bad but abandonment = better = hypocrisy." I would ask the question, what if the person that was killed developed a cure for cancer and you developed cancer? What if instead of being aborted, that same person lived but didn't go through life with their biological parents? Which of these is the better alternative for them and you? I think it would be agreed that life is better than death, even a life separated from your mother and/or father.What of they could cure cancer? I can play that game, what if they could become a murderer? Murderers are far more common, you know.
And no, I don't agree that a life without your biological mother is better than death. Not in the slightest.
(May 22, 2013 at 1:20 am)That guy who asked questions Wrote: To the argument, "Pro-life individuals want to make decisions for others." I would say, this isn't true. Not for me at least. I can't represent all pro-life individuals because I am not many. I would ask the question, "What if someone had the power to legally end your life without your consent?" Would you be opposed to the ending of your life or would you simply say it's their choice as to whether they think your life should end? Any rational and sane person would respectfully tell them to put the fucking knife away because you have the right to your life.Wtf is this here? Why would someone legally hold the power to end my life without my consent? Are we talking about if I lived in some backward country that still has the death penalty? That's an entirely different situation, because you're talking about an actual person with thoughts and feelings, not an unconscious bunch of cells. Pro-lifers are trying to make decisions for millions of pregnant women to ruin their vaginas as well as their lives.
(May 22, 2013 at 1:20 am)That guy who asked questions Wrote: The voice of the prenatal human is unheard and therefore we cannot ask them if they would like to live, but the question that must be asked is, "If you were in the position of the soon to be aborted child, would you want to live or die?"If I was in yhe position of a soon to be aborted child I wouldn't want anything because I wouldn't have any ability to bloody think or feel. That's the point. A house fly is more "alive" than a foetus.
(May 22, 2013 at 3:31 am)wwjs Wrote:The "kid" doesn't get to exist if it's aborted, so yeah. Not existing is better than the mental fucked-upness of knowing your mother didn't love or want you. Also, keeping a baby just to give it away keeps children who already exist stuck in foster care for far longer, waiting for a family to adopt them.(May 21, 2013 at 9:11 pm)NoraBrimstone Wrote: So abortion = bad, but keeping it then giving it away like an ugly sweater you got for Christmas so they have to live their entire life knowing their own mother didn't even want them = perfectly fine? LolAbortion is better for a kid then adoption? Sorry but that makes no sense.
To anyone who is pro-life because of delusions of "personhood":
Imagine I have in one hand, a dish containing 100 embryos, and in the other hand, a week old baby. Now imagine I have to drop one, and YOU have to choose which one I drop. Which do you choose? The dish, right? Right?