How to shut up people who are against abortion

[pocaracas]

This is not a human in any sense of the word.

Only in the sense that this is a moth:

There, fixed that for ya!

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You know Tib, sometimes the babies are really unwanted and remain unwanted after birth... sometimes, having a child can mean losing a job and any way of supporting both the mother and child.... sometimes, having a child means that the grandparents have to take monetary care of both the mother and the child, and sometimes, they're not very willing to do so.
Sometimes, the mother's life just becomes unbearable, if she haves that child.

I never denied that sometimes babies are unwanted and remain unwanted. All I did was argue against the apparent assumption that all of them fall into that group. I asked for evidence! Even if this happens "sometimes", it is not grounds for allowing abortion.

So you think that a woman who aborts should be fined or sentenced to jail or something like that?
In such a legal system, on those "sometimes", she would be at a crossroads and none of the two paths ahead lead to something positive, at least, as far as the eye can see. Either have the child and suffer the consequences, or abort and suffer the consequences.

Adoption is not a very viable option, given that, as it is, there are many children who don't get to be adopted... do you think these children are happy? would you prefer to condemn a child to foster care, when its undesired existence could have been avoided?

So, what would be the realistic option, in this world where abortion is illegal?

Sometimes, children grow up into murderers, but we don't go around locking up children because they might kill someone else. That isn't fair on the child, and it isn't fair on the child in this situation either. Yes, maybe they will grow up having a hard life, but we have no way of knowing that before the fact.

Indeed we don't, but there is an increased likelihood of having a hard life and, therefore, of becoming a criminal... thus becoming a burden on society.

And I think anyone should be allowed to judge their own lives and deal with the consequences of sex in their own way... within a reasonable time-frame.

The problem is, there are (at least) two lives involved in abortion, and one of them doesn't get a say.

Don't grieve, Admiral (J.Tiberius K.). It is logical. The needs of the many outweigh...
...the needs of the few...
...Or the one.